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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#892396
Anyone got a picture of the inner door with the panel off??

I replaced my door panels the other day because they were cloth and getting dirty.
Turned out to be water coming through. I refixed the plastic that had been torn over the years, but my new panels are wet again.

Yes its been pissing down unnaturally here in Sydney, but my car lives outside 24/7 so I need it fixed

Also what plastic are you using.
I got a large black garbage bag and opened it flat but it seems the be coming through this?? porous??

Would like to see where it is stuck down in the middle to allow the door latch to pass through.

These are 1975 L bug doors if that matters

Barry
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beetleboyjeff Custom Title Time!

1,790 posts · joined Feb 2009 ·

#892403
Barry, the standard door waterproof sheet is normaly just stuck to the inside of the door, directly behind the door cards.

Because I put remote central locking and electric windows in my bug, I moved the waterproof sheet to the back of the inside door skin, but inside the window glass so I could keep the water off the electrics.

This is the electrics in the door (before the car was re-sprayed).
Central locking -


Electric windows -


So here is the waterproof sheet (I used blue plastic tarpaulin material, because that is what I had) behind the inside door skin.


And here is where I fixed it at the top, to the top of the internal door skin, inside the window glass. I glued it on with contact glue - bugger of a job though.


That was nearly 5 years ago, and I haven't had any problems so far (touch wood).
From your ole' mate Jeff

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11,654 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#892458
Bizarre wrote:Anyone got a picture of the inner door with the panel off??

I replaced my door panels the other day because they were cloth and getting dirty.
Turned out to be water coming through. I refixed the plastic that had been torn over the years, but my new panels are wet again.

Yes its been pissing down unnaturally here in Sydney, but my car lives outside 24/7 so I need it fixed

Also what plastic are you using.
I got a large black garbage bag and opened it flat but it seems the be coming through this?? porous??

Would like to see where it is stuck down in the middle to allow the door latch to pass through.

These are 1975 L bug doors if that matters

Barry
I think normally they used a clear plastic with adhesive [sticky] on one side and went over the outer door skin then the rubber/plastic plugs fitted all round... from memory
so no water can touch the door card...
I used thick clear plastic I found somewhere...

Jeffs idea is better...
inside the door... You would need to clean where you are going to glue it.. inside the door under the inner panel so all water drips down into the bottom of the door..
but the window winder is still a pain..!!

maybe back to the outer part of the door...

remember the original plastic was sticky ALL over..
and went right to the bottom... of the door card so any water would drip from Under the card...
just under the top of the door card and just to the bottom of the door card.. all stuck All over the door...

the water isn't coming in the 1/4 window??? common..

cheers

LEE
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Lucky Phil Wolfsburg Wizard

480 posts · joined Aug 2010 ·

#895880
The plastic bag off a new mattress works well.
Bought a sofa the other day and the plastic it was wrapped in looked pretty good too.
It looked like it came off a continuous roll so try a sofa shop.

bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#895901
It seems to be the factories desire for residual water that passes into the door to simply pass through into the bottom and via the factory drain holes.

The only water proofing on my 69' provided courtesy by the factory was the glued on plastic sheet all have refered to thus far, which was just inside the door card, fastened by glue just inside of the door card clips. Simply keeps the water inside the door, but not pass through the card or into the cabin. 👍
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#895926
Hi

I have a roll somewhere of good stuff to use, its about as tough as landscaping plastic sheet, you could also cover the back of the door trim with contact paper for extra insurance.

Steve

lenny1870 Slammed & Awesome Dubber

84 posts · joined Mar 2012 ·

#954334
i used this...cheap from bunnings....maybe $10-15

Josh

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65busser Moderator Custom Title Time!

1,795 posts · joined Nov 2002 ·

#954410
Here's the original weatherproofing on my 65 German built.

Even on Aussie built it was only ever glued around the perimeter.

If you used repro clip seals they let water in easy. If you didn't use clip seals ... even worse.



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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#954421
It may have only been with 70s Beetles but they also glued rings of foam around the window winder and the handle to stop drafts coming in around them.

You can see the remains of where it was glued in around Jeffs door handle before his door was resprayed.

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#954962
bajachris88 wrote:It seems to be the factories desire for residual water that passes into the door to simply pass through into the bottom and via the factory drain holes.

The only water proofing on my 69' provided courtesy by the factory was the glued on plastic sheet all have refered to thus far, which was just inside the door card, fastened by glue just inside of the door card clips. Simply keeps the water inside the door, but not pass through the card or into the cabin. 👍
yes thats how all cars are, but the question is where do you get that glue from?

its more like gum that never drys and has the ability to re glue itself.

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vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#954964
lenny1870 wrote:i used this...cheap from bunnings....maybe $10-15

Josh
I used that stuff for a spray booth, but its awfully waxy and hard for anything to stick to it. I struggled to get packing tape to stick to it. guess you could always wax n' grease remover it first?

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vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 ·

#954966
1303Steve wrote:Hi

I have a roll somewhere of good stuff to use, its about as tough as landscaping plastic sheet, you could also cover the back of the door trim with contact paper for extra insurance.

Steve
few coats of good varnish helps a lot, then always a self adhesive film on it too. just some clear or plain black or white vinyl would be good and easy to apply.

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