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hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#924412
76, the last beetle had BJ

You know what you need Pete

waveman1500 Also rides a Honda

1,346 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#924428
In terms of dirt track stuff, all the cars which are currently competing in SA are S-bugs (1302). I think there are a few good reasons for this. They've got IRS, strut front and they're lighter than L-bugs.

In terms of budget and what car to buy, an important consideration is whether you're willing to trailer the car or not. If you don't have a trailer and a suitable tow car, then that would be a major expense. The cheapest way is to keep the competition car registered and drive to events. If you drive to events then for rego purposes you generally shouldn't really have a cage, and you are going to want to make sure you don't break it so that you can get home!
1972 VW S-Bug - For Sale!
1968-onwards Beetle panels and glass for sale

sander288 "Bolt-on Master"

1,404 posts · joined Aug 2008 ·

#924434
pete wood wrote:Yep, YOUR car Daimo! 😂
K&L front & swing axle 😂😂😂
BMW R65 LS
1967 1300 Deluxe
Swing-axles FTW ❗

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#924464
waveman1500 wrote:In terms of dirt track stuff, all the cars which are currently competing in SA are S-bugs (1302). I think there are a few good reasons for this. They've got IRS, strut front and they're lighter than L-bugs.
Hi

There's 20kg diffeence, 20 kgs is still 20 kgs but stripping the car out will get it down a lot. It mightn't make much difference scratching around in the dirt but at higher speeds a 1303 will leave a flatscreen bug way behind.

Steve

Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#924466
Yep, a tiny bit of extra weight is worth it for the improved aerodynamics and negative scrub 2 bolt suspension if you get the 74-75 Lbug

Anyway if its a dedicated track car just taking out the Lbug Dash and defroster fan is the best part of that 20kg

waveman1500 Also rides a Honda

1,346 posts · joined Dec 2009 ·

#924470
I thought the front suspension was pretty similar between S and L bugs?

If I'm brutally honest, the real reason all the competitors have S bugs is probably because they look nicer, and the people driving them are all VW enthusiasts. My S-bug hasn't seen the track yet, but I'll count myself in with that group. I really prefer the look of the S-bug to the L, and for looks alone I probably wouldn't upgrade to an L bug even if it was a second faster around a khanacross! As I said, I'll be at the back of the pack enjoying myself anyway, so times don't really matter.
1972 VW S-Bug - For Sale!
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Joel Now containing 100\% E-Wang

9,368 posts · joined Feb 2006 ·

#924472
Only the first bunch of 73 Lbugs were the same, 74 and later have the more modern negative scrub radius layout that even todays cars still use.
Combine that with rack and pinion in 75s and you have the best handling bug they made.

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#924522
Whatever you decide on, buy a clean one, put a cage, motor, gearbox and swaybars on it start racing.
Don't pull one down to the tunnel and reinvent the wheel (lesson from my own personal stupidity 😂)

h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle

7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#924527
👍
look forward to watching what you end up getting pete
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#924972
Perfect Paul, you got it covered
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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#924975
I offered my 74 1300...

Original straight and rust free (98%) South Aus car with

4 wheel disc brakes
KYB shocks all round
lowered beam with Avis adjusters, and country buggy style stiffeners
whiteline adjustable front and rear swaybars
Porsche Cookie cutters with new tyres
VDO Guages
Sport steering wheel
JDM bucket seats.

all for only $3500 !!!


Wow, after reading my own post I think I will keep it now !!!


colin Fahrvergnugen

984 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#924980
Craig Torrens wrote:I offered my 74 1300...

Original straight and rust free (98%) South Aus car with

4 wheel disc brakes
KYB shocks all round
lowered beam with Avis adjusters, and country buggy style stiffeners
whiteline adjustable front and rear swaybars
Porsche Cookie cutters with new tyres
VDO Guages
Sport steering wheel
JDM bucket seats.

all for only $3500 !!!


Wow, after reading my own post I think I will keep it now !!!
No still sell it, just change the 3 to a 6.😎

Cheers Col

colin Fahrvergnugen

984 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#924981
To my knowledge you can,t buy Whiteline bars anymore.
Thats gotta be worth something.

Cheers Col

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#925006
Yeah, Pete!
I've seen that car of craigs and it'd be a steal at that price

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#925031
Well, got some news last night that puts all those sorts of plans on hold for a least 3 months. Oh well... some time in the future. 😢

Maybe I'll find something else to race...
"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#925054
^^^ like a super charged oval 😍😁
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#925249
We'll see. I think it needs a little raising first. 🥷

What is this I'm hearing about Bajas spearing into the bush Mr Berry? Suffice to say, poor Rob asked me to slow down this arvo coz he "wasn't comfortable" after your demonstration the other day... 😂
"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#925406
so why the oval ?? was it a part trade ?


pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#925467
Full trade. It's judsoned and mostly original paint. He might have come out a little better, but I think it will work out in the end. Need to conserve license for a while so it's just the ticket. Then who knows, maybe I'll race it.
"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#925530
As long as you're happy, thats the main thing 👍


matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#925531
Yeah, Bob scares easily I've found 😂

Go the race project and have fun, just don't bend it 🙂
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

h fractals - an ever changing lifestyle

7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#925535
ahem mr berry brown undies 😂
fractal geometry; the inner most limits of mind altering abuse

Fantasy http://seventhchronicle.com

Z = Z2 + C1/r = 1/0 = infinity

Barrels www.barrelman.com.au

VW Workshop - aircooledgarage.com.au
allcooled.com.au

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#925659
matberry wrote:Yeah, Bob scares easily I've found 😂

Go the race project and have fun, just don't bend it 🙂
Yeah, poor guy had his hands up saying, "I'm not comfortable with this". 😂

BTW, the car is very fuely. Could it be running a little rich? Is there a way to give it a touch less fuel?
"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#925663
It's got a 135 main in it by request, Possibly try a 132.5 from a 2.0 litre type 4, but i'd certainly recommend checking AFR's.
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE