Best budget track car?

pete wood · 2012-09-29T01:31:50+00:00

In a bit of change over with my buggy selling and the like at the mo. I'm also turning 40 next year and you know how it is, you start to think, "better do a few things or I'm gonna kick myself later". So, I'm thinking about broaching the subject of a race car with the missus. Budget is the big thing. Ie. there's very little cash at the mo. However, I can weld, paint, assemble, fab so it should be ok. What I'm thinking is something that could do motorkhanas, track days and maybe some sort of low cost race series later on. Something my kids can learn to drive in too. So here are my qus. 1. which model? (want least weigh/best handling options) 2. which motor? 3. which class/race series? 4. key/major costs? My current thinking is leaning towards a late 1300 beetle with BJ/SA and sticking as close to 1600cc as pos to stay in the under 1600 class for IPRA. What do you all reckon?

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1,698 posts · joined May 2004 · 8 Oct 2012, 2:20 pm

#925704

Yep 135 main is what is recommended for a 40hp judson. Lots of info at the judson register Pete.
Also in the vintage speed section on the samba there is a lot on judsons.

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#925710

cool. thanx mate. It's better once it warms up, but like you said, it's pretty smelly on start up. 😵

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8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 8 Oct 2012, 3:14 pm

#925714

If it's better hot, then it's not too rich. Sure it's not just the oil in the Judson burning off after sitting.

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andrewl Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined May 2006 · 22 Oct 2012, 7:15 pm

#927883

This thread has got me thinking about whether you could build a beetle for IPRA. As a general observation in IPRA there are quite a few small Japanese pre 1986 cars that have had a turbo engine installed. They are competitive and running at the pointy end of the IPRA series. They are light and their 2 litre engines are producing around 350 bhp. A lot of effort and money goes in to getting a car to this stage. Just curious does anyone think the same could be done with a beetle?

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2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 22 Oct 2012, 7:31 pm

#927888

Are you thinking of going circuit (i.e. rubbing doors) or hill climbs and lap sprints?

andrewl Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined May 2006 · 23 Oct 2012, 4:35 pm

#928018

I already do sprints and historics - but not in a beetle. Maybe in the next couple of years I will look at a bit of push and shove. The thing about the beetle is the knowledge base Whatever you want to do lots of others have already been there so it is a good car to at least consider.

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1,921 posts · joined Dec 2003 · 23 Oct 2012, 4:49 pm

#928021

You can be assured of one thing , your gunna spend a sh$t load of money getting 350 odd hp out of a vw and keeping it reliable in circut racing

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8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 23 Oct 2012, 8:53 pm

#928087

andrewl wrote:Just curious does anyone think the same could be done with a beetle?

No

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1,005 posts · joined Aug 2007 · 24 Oct 2012, 1:49 am

#928120

doubt you would need 350 hp to keep up! the limiting factor for IPRA is tyres. Wally built a little turbo motor that made some good power, there is a thread on shop talk.

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andrewl Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined May 2006 · 25 Oct 2012, 6:30 pm

#928318

I agree 350 is abit excessive. Given the rules I think aerodynamics might be the real problem.