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humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#929080
Dave Folts sent me some pics of some axle retainer devises he has come up with for use with his axles....





There have been some instances where the uni-joint has failed with his axles, which basically has allowed the wheel, and everything still connected to it, to move around under the car uncontrolled... This devise maintains a near positive connection to the chassis should a failure occur...

He has offered to send me through a set (minus a few parts I can source here) to try out on the car.

Pretty cool idea I reckon.

whathaveidone Custom Title Time!

1,559 posts · joined Feb 2010 ·

#929116
Man your still over thinking arnt you😁

Stanley I guess the reward is in the doing of it

4,523 posts · joined Mar 2003 ·

#929117
Looks well made and designed but why?

Dak-A-Tak Volksie Pete

1,381 posts · joined Jan 2004 ·

#929142
Its so if you brake a axle or uni joint it doesn't drop down , helps keep wheels in up right stance and pointing forward .
All about pulling up on 4wheels .

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#929148
The slide arrangement is there to allow suspension travel, but gets to the end if a broken inner uni or axle is experienced. I'd say use it if your using his swing conversion.

As for mounting a kombi box....how long have we got?
Use the std front mount on the berg nose adapter to position the front. the rear has a few compromises to consider. Fit to engine bay, if a priority will mean offcentre output flanges and visa-versa. Height also depends on engine tin or cv clearance. I'd recommend a mockup with front mount on and juggle until your at a happy location in the engine bay. The rear mount I use or make is like the design in the pic, but altered to get the trans where I want it.

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humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#929791
Looks like I just scored this for cheap!



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1,990 posts · joined Sep 2007 ·

#929797
ah, dont do that! now i want one! Did you get that from the same place as frosty??

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#929830
Nup.... Picked it up locally for $140!.... It was used as a mock-up rig only.... The dude put a RCL poly seat in the FJ instead!!! 👍
Now I need to figure out the mounting of it.... Waiting for Morgan to figure that one out, so I can copy him! 😉
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Stanley I guess the reward is in the doing of it

4,523 posts · joined Mar 2003 ·

#929838
Good score. I got mine from VPW in Melbourne.

dragvw2180 Officially Full-On Dubber

393 posts · joined May 2006 ·

#929861
humpty wrote:Nup.... Picked it up locally for $140!.... It was used as a mock-up rig only.... The dude put a RCL poly seat in the FJ instead!!! 👍
Now I need to figure out the mounting of it.... Waiting for Morgan to figure that one out, so I can copy him! 😉
Just an idea, this is how I mounted the last one I did for John Toomeys Unlimited Street car,was passed for his 8.50 cert,

Mike McCarthy

dragvw2180 Officially Full-On Dubber

393 posts · joined May 2006 ·

#929863
You can see when I did my car I installed two bottom attachments plus the rear.also 8.50 cert, Mike McCarthy

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#929867
That's the stuff Mike.... Perfect examples right there....
Looking at your cage..... I sent a message to Chassis Works in Sacto last night enquiring about one of their products.... You had any experience with Chris' Alston's work?
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dragvw2180 Officially Full-On Dubber

393 posts · joined May 2006 ·

#929876
I have never purchased anything from them but know they have some reasonable prices on quality roll cages and parts. My friend John Toomey and I purchased a tubing bender and notcher . We buy tubing in 20 ft pieces and build our own cages because it is something we can and like doing. If you would like some ideas I will email you some pics or post them here. My new chassis will be very simular to Johns but I will be using a torsion housing instead of ladder bars. Mike McCarthy

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2,534 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#929891
Have a look at troys build on the tube car mate. He made the mounts and fitted a Kirkey seat in the tube car.
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2,151 posts · joined May 2004 ·

#930003
hi Simon , this is how we mounted Ben Fords' seat and it past tech for super sedan . The tech inspector was very happy with it ....👍

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26 posts · joined Feb 2012 ·

#930026
Simon, the RLR mount is another way to go, also comes with a back support to mount off the cage, seat can go back and forth a bit too for adjustment. Cheers, Greg

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humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#930163
dragvw2180 wrote:I have never purchased anything from them but know they have some reasonable prices on quality roll cages and parts. My friend John Toomey and I purchased a tubing bender and notcher . We buy tubing in 20 ft pieces and build our own cages because it is something we can and like doing. If you would like some ideas I will email you some pics or post them here. My new chassis will be very simular to Johns but I will be using a torsion housing instead of ladder bars. Mike McCarthy
I have looked at building my own cage, but the prices for the cage including delivery from Carl is cheaper than buying the materials here!... But I will still need to modified it a little when it arrives.... Gonna get my brother to TIG it all up for me, which will also save me a few bob...

And after all that, any suggestions on how to improve the design is always greatful.... How Troy and Brad have improved on Dave's tube car has been a great source of info, as has Frosty's project.... My car is going to be a lot like Morgans of course... With a narrowed and raised torsion housing, so any details on how to do this would be awesome!

How Chris Bolton and Ben Ford have built their cages, especially the main hoop is very interesting.... I remember that Chris said it gave him more shoulder/elbow room, which has to be a good thing.

And cheers for that seat mount Greg... Appreciate that.
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26 posts · joined Feb 2012 ·

#930263
No worries, also the narrowed and raised torsion housing is surprisingly easy to do once you get into it.
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westi what the

1,610 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#930380
humpty i am doing a bug cage at the moment and making a few odds and sod's for my beetle.let me know if you want a price to make yours up when i do the other one.
easy to do 2 at once mate.
down sharon.

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#930381
westi wrote:humpty i am doing a bug cage at the moment and making a few odds and sod's for my beetle.let me know if you want a price to make yours up when i do the other one.
easy to do 2 at once mate.
Definitely be interested Brad... Prolly be easier as a flat pack though.... What do you have in mind?... Drop you a call tomorrow or next week?
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westi what the

1,610 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#930420
yeh flat pack for sure,but i was just sayin ,while i am doing one another wouldn't be that hard.
give me a buzz when you are ready
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913 posts · joined May 2009 ·

#930422
hey brad, when u going to be doing that? im after a bolt in half cage for mine.....


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humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#930431
westi wrote:give me a buzz when you are ready
Will do....
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hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#930685
Sway a way spring plates?
Where did you source them from?

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2,534 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#930742
Troy drilled and tapped a grease nipple into his Spring plate retainers for the Type 3 So we can grease them. Bit fiddly but saves the bush from getting flogged!! think he cut a scroll into the bush as well.
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humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#930783
hellbugged wrote:Sway a way spring plates?
Where did you source them from?
Peirside...
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE wrote:Troy drilled and tapped a grease nipple into his Spring plate retainers for the Type 3 So we can grease them. Bit fiddly but saves the bush from getting flogged!! think he cut a scroll into the bush as well.
That's a good idea.... Cheers Brennden.
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humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#931287
Went racing for the first time since Christmas....



Car ran loads better..... No ignition or fuel problems now..... But.... Too much boost (20psi), too many revs (7k!) and way too much wheel spin in all gears!!!!!
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1916baja Custom Title Time!

1,990 posts · joined Sep 2007 ·

#931288
Times? Mph? How many runs did you end up getting?

humpty Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,336 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#931293
Really shit times..... Low 15's at 98mph!!!!!
Off to a dyno shop tomorrow to check on timing and AFR's.

Got a NoH2O drag event happening at the end of the month, so will try to break the axles then..... Promise! 😉
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