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fish26 Fahrvergnugen

903 posts · joined Jul 2007 ·

#947246
I thought I would share this build with those who may be interested, its a mates engine we are building for a Manxter

CB super race case 3.5mm deck
CB 82mm crank 8 dowel
CB 5.5 H beams
AA lightweight flywheel
AA 92mm thick walls
DRD hand oval ports 58cc 42x37 0.020" step
1.25 rockers
FK43 108 L/C straight up heli gears
CB Ultralight lifters
CroMo studs and push rods
CB Throttle bodies
Microtech ECU
Twin IHI VF14 turbochargers with custom intake and exhaust.

The mock assembly with above combination netted 0.003" deck, with 0.020" in the head I will be installing 0.060" copper head gasket from CB

CR is 8.57 static 6.58 dynamic with plans of running 8psi boost.



























more coming soon.
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cnfabo Custom Title Time!

1,353 posts · joined Apr 2008 ·

#947249
Engine porn 🙂 can't wait for more. How are going to keep the front wheels on the ground!!!!

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#947260
Cool Fish, keep it up. Turbo 2180 should wake up a few Subi buggies.
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

LIFE IN THE LOW LANE All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the pr

2,534 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#947338
2180 with out a turbo would do that lol

Looks good mate!!
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fish26 Fahrvergnugen

903 posts · joined Jul 2007 ·

#947352
thanks guys, we are hoping for 200 HP at the wheels on 8psi soft tune and 98 pump, ultimately reach 250 HP on E85 with bigger injectors and more boost.

Once we get the engine installed Westi will be fabbing the intercoolers and relevant piping, I'd like to see twin coolers behind the Manxter side pods.
bitten by the bug..........several times

grogy Custom Title Time!

1,000 posts · joined Aug 2007 ·

#947365
no thrills for the cautious

westi what the

1,610 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#947366
i got some fuel you should try.it's not meth.102oct.
down sharon.

fish26 Fahrvergnugen

903 posts · joined Jul 2007 ·

#947368
mate I'd love to, we can talk when I come past
bitten by the bug..........several times

LIFE IN THE LOW LANE All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the pr

2,534 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#947417
Troys old engine configuration made 248hp atw on 18psi from memory. 2332 with t3/4 turbo, welded volksy heads and unknown cam grind which he got with engine originally from speedway car. Waste gate spring wouldn't hold any more boost and injectors were running 100% duty cycle so needed to be bigger. They were modified rb26 dett skyline injectors. Now with comp eliminators, gt42r and methanol power should be a bit higher lol
ACCEPT THAT SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE PIDGEON AND SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE STATUE

Alder Outlaws VW Racing - check it out on fb!!

fish26 Fahrvergnugen

903 posts · joined Jul 2007 ·

#947484
I would expect Troy's new engine configuration with that big ass turbo to easily make 350+
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LIFE IN THE LOW LANE All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the pr

2,534 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#947504
We will see how it goes!! He plans to have it ready for Warwick. Mighten be painted and pretty but track ready.
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Alder Outlaws VW Racing - check it out on fb!!

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#947553
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE wrote:Troys old engine configuration made 248hp atw on 18psi from memory. 2332 with t3/4 turbo, welded volksy heads and unknown cam grind which he got with engine originally from speedway car. Waste gate spring wouldn't hold any more boost and injectors were running 100% duty cycle so needed to be bigger. They were modified rb26 dett skyline injectors. Now with comp eliminators, gt42r and methanol power should be a bit higher lol
Even your memory talks things up!
Better check those numbers before using your memory.

With troy's head flow it would need over 30-intercooled-psi to make 350 at the wheels.
300 is a fair start position if he can keep the flywheel on it.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

fish26 Fahrvergnugen

903 posts · joined Jul 2007 ·

#947599
lol i think we all exaggerate ever so slightly in the hope of getting there in the end
bitten by the bug..........several times

LIFE IN THE LOW LANE All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the pr

2,534 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#947607
dangerous wrote:
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE wrote:Troys old engine configuration made 248hp atw on 18psi from memory. 2332 with t3/4 turbo, welded volksy heads and unknown cam grind which he got with engine originally from speedway car. Waste gate spring wouldn't hold any more boost and injectors were running 100% duty cycle so needed to be bigger. They were modified rb26 dett skyline injectors. Now with comp eliminators, gt42r and methanol power should be a bit higher lol
Even your memory talks things up!
Better check those numbers before using your memory.

With troy's head flow it would need over 30-intercooled-psi to make 350 at the wheels.
300 is a fair start position if he can keep the flywheel on it.
I said it made 248hp atw not 350 dude. Thats the figures that troy has told me so im guessing he would know lol. could be telling porkies hahaha.As for new combo who knows what it will do? But it definately has to make more than original set up wouldn't you think Dave? Bigger and better heads on methanol with better pipes and manifolds it has to breathe better than what it did have..
ACCEPT THAT SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE PIDGEON AND SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE STATUE

Alder Outlaws VW Racing - check it out on fb!!

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#947620
To clarify, my notes say Troys old engine(vw heads) made 227hp, and as much as 233 danger lean on 18psi.
a long way from 248.

My head flow comment WAS refering to his new heads/ engine.
Yes it should make more, but a wild guess is all you are making until it is running.

Sorry for the hijack, back to your regular programming....
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#947637
Where's the like button??

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#947638
vassy66T1 wrote:Where's the like button??

For the engine or the T.K.O ?

😂

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#947640
hellbugged wrote:
vassy66T1 wrote:Where's the like button??

For the engine or the T.K.O ?

😂
You"re onto it mate 😘

fish26 Fahrvergnugen

903 posts · joined Jul 2007 ·

#947704
both I hope
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vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#947717
Yeh both 👍👍👍

typethreeking Wolfsburg Wizard

621 posts · joined May 2008 ·

#948559
I love all this talk about my car and I haven't even said anything!!!!!😂
BEING ASPIRATED FEELS GREAT BUT BEING BLOWN TAKES THING TO A WHOLE NEW LEVEL....

fish26 Fahrvergnugen

903 posts · joined Jul 2007 ·

#948597
Yeah Troy, just get it on the dyno already.......

Another head to choose from after a slight massage

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turboboy Seriously Crusin Dubber

117 posts · joined Sep 2008 ·

#948879
Check around where the oil pickup tube goes to it the block.
Mine was cracked and required welding

fish26 Fahrvergnugen

903 posts · joined Jul 2007 ·

#948914
thanks mate, always best to double check twice...........not a lot of progress made hopefully will get the copper head gaskets and other goodies from CB before the weekend.

Anyone else have issues with AA cromo flywheel mating to the CB crank?
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debiasi4 Officially Full-On Dubber

283 posts · joined Dec 2004 ·

#948925
Those AA flywheels are not very good on the clutch surface. Found it was not very grippy surface and glazed up easily.even when resurfaced. I ended up going back to lightened vw flywheels on anything that made decent power
Cheers Adam

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#948937
^^ me too, the AA flywheels aren't a patch on old German VW. I know one of Australia's best clutch specialist that has offered to buy any old VW flytwheels to use the clutch surface material in his custom alloy flywheels. It is in his opinion the best material he has ever experienced in his 40+ years of building clutches.

Recently I chucked a new replacement in the bin due to the flywheel mating surface being so poorly finished, it appeared it would have damaged the crank quick smart.

German all the way for me too.
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

westi what the

1,610 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#949061
not me ,but someone i know,didn't actually mate properly.
down sharon.

LIFE IN THE LOW LANE All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the pr

2,534 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#949176
I've run a lightened VW flywheel for years and never ever had a problem. Yanks are very anti lightening flywheels especially when it comes to kombi's. my uncle has lightened a lot of VW flywheels over the years and he loves the quality of the steel they are made of.
ACCEPT THAT SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE PIDGEON AND SOME DAYS YOU ARE THE STATUE

Alder Outlaws VW Racing - check it out on fb!!

fish26 Fahrvergnugen

903 posts · joined Jul 2007 ·

#949471
will sort out the flywheel issue later, I've just been messing around with setting rocker/valve geometry....I hate doing this,
find full lift 0.383
half it 0.1915
mark half lift
install adjustable pushrod and rockers
set rocker parallel to head, adjuster inline with pushrod, rocker tip 90* to valve stem

I'm close but not perfect, seems rocker stand needs a trim or thinner lash cap







Also got the 0.060" copper head gaskets checked out, now get this rocker geometry right.

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Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#949472
its all the time consuming stuff....i hate it too !