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EnPassant Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#952957
Is anyone familiar with this problem?
My 1995 T5 Transporter often stalls as I come to a halt at intersections etc. It seems to happen more when the engine is hot. Going down through the gears to keep the revs up seems to help but not always. Work done so far to try to isolate the problem includes:- New spark plugs, Checked for air leaks, throttle body cleaned, PCV removed and idle air mixture valve cleaned, rotor button and cap cleaned, basic idle setting carried out.
The engine stalls while the van is in gear and the clutch pedal depressed.
I am wondering if anyone knows if this is a known problem with this model. I hope someone can help as I live in a country town without VW diagnostic equipment.

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4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#952977
95 is a T4 not a T5.

Pull out the relay above the fuse panel that has "30" on it. Check for broken solder joints
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EnPassant Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#953232
Thanks. I'll try that and let you know the result.

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1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 ·

#953235
Check your throttle position switch on the throttle body.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

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EnPassant Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#953239
AA003 wrote:Check your throttle position switch on the throttle body.
Thanks. Will do.

EnPassant Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#953240
11CAB wrote:95 is a T4 not a T5.

Pull out the relay above the fuse panel that has "30" on it. Check for broken solder joints
I looked at the relay but it looks as if it needs a special tool to get into it. I considered prising it open with a small screwdriver but decided against it in case I caused damage and stranded myself. (I'm a complete novice and live 20km's from town).

Re. T4 or T5 - - The van was advertised as a T5 when I bought it two years ago and I had never questioned it. On looking for some identification evidence, both on the van (where the handbook says it should be) and in the documentation, I can find nothing that says either T4 or T5.

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679 posts · joined May 2008 ·

#953249
That year identifies it as aT4,
google search T4 & look at the images to check,
if your headlights are reasonably straight across , it's called a " short nose"
If they are angled slightly from inner edge to outer edge, it's known as along nose,
T5 are another kettle of fish !

Good luck with sorting your problem
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EnPassant Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#953254
newghia wrote:That year identifies it as aT4,
google search T4 & look at the images to check,
if your headlights are reasonably straight across , it's called a " short nose"
If they are angled slightly from inner edge to outer edge, it's known as along nose,
T5 are another kettle of fish !

Good luck with sorting your problem
Nath
Cheers! Turns out I'm driving a shortnose T4.

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4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#953257
Its easy to pop the cover off the relay with a small screw driver
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679 posts · joined May 2008 ·

#953258
Yeah they are the ones I've seen the most of here,
I have just got myself a 97 dual cab with the sliding rear windows, very soon to be on the road as my daily / work vehicle,
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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#953262
30 relay is just a normal power relay, should be changed every 100 000km. Can make a HUGE difference
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EnPassant Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#953265
matberry wrote:30 relay is just a normal power relay, should be changed every 100 000km. Can make a HUGE difference
Hi. As you have probably realised, I am a complete novice. What does the 30 relay actually do? - I have managed to take the cover off it and it seems to be in good order.

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4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#953275
No 30 Relay powers up the ECU. When the solder joints crack, it turns the power off to the ECU like you've turned the key off. It doesn't store a fault code, because it thinks you've turned the key off.
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#953276
It's a power supply relay to the computer amongst other things I believe. A good quality relay under $20
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EnPassant Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#953281
11CAB wrote:No 30 Relay powers up the ECU. When the solder joints crack, it turns the power off to the ECU like you've turned the key off. It doesn't store a fault code, because it thinks you've turned the key off.
Thanks for the feedback. I can see now that the 30 relay might be the cause of the problem.

EnPassant Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#953282
matberry wrote:It's a power supply relay to the computer amongst other things I believe. A good quality relay under $20
Thanks. The 30 relay sounds like the next posibility to explore.

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1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 ·

#953284
If it was the ECU relay I think that you would have more problems than stalling.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#953308
I've had a rough idle fixed by replacing it.
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AA003 Custom Title Time!

1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 ·

#953332
matberry wrote:I've had a rough idle fixed by replacing it.
I can't really understand that one.

It either works or not. It's just a switch.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

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matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#953345
Not really, I believe it's about clean power, as the points get pitted/higher resistance it somehow effects the computer. I am not sure why either, but it gave me customer for life, they hd been to VW nd about 6 other specialists and putting up with a rough idle and very poor running at light cruise for 7 years.
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7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#953352
so it sounds like a petrol T4 yeah
so erm put in for a service at a reputable VW service place.. 😵‍💫
they should sort your woes
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EnPassant Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#953384
h wrote:so it sounds like a petrol T4 yeah
so erm put in for a service at a reputable VW service place.. 😵‍💫
they should sort your woes
I travelled 111 km's to the nearest VW service place having informed them of the age of the vehicle when making the booking. I was only told when I came to collect the van that they only had diagnostic equipment for recent models and not for the t4. I was charged $644 and the problem was not fixed.

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#953385
^ that's a familiar story, unfortunatly
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donn Wolfsburg Elder

3,515 posts · joined Nov 2005 ·

#953411
I travelled 111 km's to the nearest VW service place having informed them of the age of the vehicle when making the booking. I was only told when I came to collect the van that they only had diagnostic equipment for recent models and not for the t4. I was charged $644 and the problem was not fixed. [/quote]



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EnPassant Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#953439
donn wrote:I travelled 111 km's to the nearest VW service place having informed them of the age of the vehicle when making the booking. I was only told when I came to collect the van that they only had diagnostic equipment for recent models and not for the t4. I was charged $644 and the problem was not fixed.


you no fix.............me no pay😠 [/quote]

Unfortunately I would have had to stay another day away from home with all the attendant costs and inconvenience... and no guarantee that the problem would be fixed. I signed a form on booking the car in which I suspect said that the van would not be released without the bill being paid first. Anyway after I had hung around all day, all I wanted to do was to get home!

EnPassant Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#953973
I have sourced and ordered the 30 relay. Will update when I know if it has had the desired effect.
Also while looking under the bonnet to get part numbers for other components I noteced that there is a double aperture in the ring gear housing. The two circular 'holes' are recessed as if they should perhaps have something like a double rubber cap to seal them from dust and grit. At the moment they are open. Anyone know if they should be covered and if so what the part is called?

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4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#953982
Yep there's a rubber plug for it. It's taken out to check the timing mark on the flywheel
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EnPassant Learner Dubber

16 posts · joined Sep 2011 ·

#953987
11CAB wrote:Yep there's a rubber plug for it. It's taken out to check the timing mark on the flywheel
Thanks. Any idea what its called so that I can search for one? I live on a dirt road and grit is likely to get in there

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7,671 posts · joined Feb 2005 ·

#954003
EnPassant wrote:
donn wrote:I travelled 111 km's to the nearest VW service place having informed them of the age of the vehicle when making the booking. I was only told when I came to collect the van that they only had diagnostic equipment for recent models and not for the t4. I was charged $644 and the problem was not fixed.


you no fix.............me no pay😠
Unfortunately I would have had to stay another day away from home with all the attendant costs and inconvenience... and no guarantee that the problem would be fixed. I signed a form on booking the car in which I suspect said that the van would not be released without the bill being paid first. Anyway after I had hung around all day, all I wanted to do was to get home! [/quote]

erm if you have paid for something and it hasn't been fixed take it back and get them to fix it..?
if u forked out $644 for nothing well that doesn't add up..
surely they must have done some work that you agreed to yeah..?
which vw service place is it?
send them an email n get something done about it.. wtf
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4,674 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#954010
EnPassant wrote:
11CAB wrote:Yep there's a rubber plug for it. It's taken out to check the timing mark on the flywheel
Thanks. Any idea what its called so that I can search for one? I live on a dirt road and grit is likely to get in there
VW just call it a plug.
Should be 02A301115A

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