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gotthebug65 Slammed & Awesome Dubber

81 posts · joined Apr 2012 ·

#954104
I am after a camber control arm or rear sway bar to suit a swing axle type beetle

Newcastle Area

vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#954109
Be carefull fitting a sway bar to a swing axle rear end, the bar actually promotes rear wheel tuck, a camber compensator is made for a swing axel rear end
http://www.piersideparts.net/MB9615.html

whathaveidone Custom Title Time!

1,559 posts · joined Feb 2010 ·

#954133
Rod Penrose has some going cheap at the moment!! Get in contact with greg mackey(happydaze). He is a wizz on swing axel tuning. had the pleasure of seeing his setup recently. He should be able to point you in the right direction!!!

gotthebug65 Slammed & Awesome Dubber

81 posts · joined Apr 2012 ·

#954138
vwo60 wrote:Be carefull fitting a sway bar to a swing axle rear end, the bar actually promotes rear wheel tuck, a camber compensator is made for a swing axel rear end
http://www.piersideparts.net/MB9615.html
cheers that clears that up in my mind

gotthebug65 Slammed & Awesome Dubber

81 posts · joined Apr 2012 ·

#954140
whathaveidone wrote:Rod Penrose has some going cheap at the moment!! Get in contact with greg mackey(happydaze). He is a wizz on swing axel tuning. had the pleasure of seeing his setup recently. He should be able to point you in the right direction!!!
is that the camber compensator he has going cheap ?

HappyDaze Superannuated

2,887 posts · joined Jun 2009 ·

#954161
Fitting a 'camber compensator', without re-setting the rear torsion bars would be a waste of time.
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!

gotthebug65 Slammed & Awesome Dubber

81 posts · joined Apr 2012 ·

#954240
HappyDaze wrote:Fitting a 'camber compensator', without re-setting the rear torsion bars would be a waste of time.
cheers for the tip

cnfabo Custom Title Time!

1,353 posts · joined Apr 2008 ·

#954241
Wayne races a swing axle rear with a sway bar to success and I have also driven one as well and that are fine. Off the shelf camber compensators suck unless you build a mackie one, but more work then just bolting up a sway bar...my 2c

Fabo

vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#954252
I had sway bar on a swng axel car for about twenty minutes, took it off after a big dose of oversteer when the rear axels tucked mid corner, as for the available camber compensators, i have run these for years on both of my swing axel cars wiith out the sudden death oversteer that a sway bar promotes. Have a think how a sway bar operates, most manufacturers do not recommend fitting them.

HappyDaze Superannuated

2,887 posts · joined Jun 2009 ·

#954291
There is a bit more to improving the swing-axle suspension than just 'whacking on' a compensating spring, or anti-roll bar.

If a lot of power is involved, lack of traction could be a problem with an anti-roll bar. A limited-slip diff. would probably be needed.

After a bit of work on the rear suspension, understeer could rear its ugly head. Then you can work on the front end.......and so on.👍
I'd rather wear a Beetle out by racing it than by polishing it!

gotthebug65 Slammed & Awesome Dubber

81 posts · joined Apr 2012 ·

#954391
HappyDaze wrote:There is a bit more to improving the swing-axle suspension than just 'whacking on' a compensating spring, or anti-roll bar.

If a lot of power is involved, lack of traction could be a problem with an anti-roll bar. A limited-slip diff. would probably be needed.

After a bit of work on the rear suspension, understeer could rear its ugly head. Then you can work on the front end.......and so on.👍
i found a good article on aircooled that talked about similar facets of swing arm suspention

http://www.aircooled.net/vw-handling-suspension-tuning/

i have konis on there atm it seemed to wriggle around a bit once i got up to 60 mph havent gone much past that atm ...

vwo60 Veteran Volks Folk

2,036 posts · joined Feb 2007 ·

#954398
You can have a four wheel alignment, check the castor while you are at it as it might need a bit more to improve the straight line stability