flying KDF hub caps

sikras Seriously Crusin Dubber

106 posts · joined Feb 2011 · 8 Jun 2013, 9:31 am

#958938

any1 know where i could get one?

splitbus Seriously Crusin Dubber

162 posts · joined Jan 2009 · 8 Jun 2013, 2:31 pm

#958957

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1482345

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=495056

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SuperOwen Fahrvergnugen

868 posts · joined Jan 2009 · 8 Jun 2013, 3:40 pm

#958969

Please tell me your putting these on a car to keep it a historically accurate restoration. Putting them on anything else is just plain stupid, unless you happen to be a neo nazi..

ibmoknegawsklov Seriously Crusin Dubber

164 posts · joined Sep 2003 · 8 Jun 2013, 6:05 pm

#958980

Looks great ! Ignore the anti Nazi comments, swastikas mean far more than that.

Old Hutcho Officially Full-On Dubber

281 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 8 Jun 2013, 7:14 pm

#958991

What do they mean??

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bajachris88 The international telephone dialing code for Antarctica is 6

6,661 posts · joined Apr 2005 · 8 Jun 2013, 7:28 pm

#958993

You'll see em' all over Buddhist temples the other way round 🙂 👍

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barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 8 Jun 2013, 7:37 pm

#958994

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

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zeppelin-vwwe Commited Dubber

61 posts · joined Feb 2011 · 8 Jun 2013, 8:34 pm

#959000

I've never even realised that they're supposed to be a swastika. Since they're round I've never even noticed... I just think they look awesome, who cares what idiots think

lohoon Wolfsburg Wizard

466 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 8 Jun 2013, 8:38 pm

#959001

KDF flying cog emblem . Not swastika.

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1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 · 8 Jun 2013, 9:14 pm

#959004

SuperOwen wrote:Putting them on anything else is just plain stupid, unless you happen to be a neo nazi..

Wouldn't that be a retro Nazi?

I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

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sikras Seriously Crusin Dubber

106 posts · joined Feb 2011 · 9 Jun 2013, 1:05 am

#959020

Thanx 4 d help ppl. I didn't think it would a fend any1 cause I thought that's what they were called

x275 Commited Dubber

61 posts · joined Mar 2013 · 9 Jun 2013, 2:57 pm

#959059

lohoon wrote:KDF flying cog emblem . Not swastika.

My notion exactly

SuperOwen Fahrvergnugen

868 posts · joined Jan 2009 · 9 Jun 2013, 6:09 pm

#959069

ibmoknegawsklov wrote:Looks great ! Ignore the anti Nazi comments, swastikas mean far more than that.

I have to defend my comment for being ANTI nazi now????
If you want to drive around with four swastika's on your car go for it.

pfillery Insano Dub Head

734 posts · joined Dec 2011 · 9 Jun 2013, 6:10 pm

#959070

bajachris88 wrote:You'll see em' all over Buddhist temples the other way round 🙂 👍

And the tiled floor of Brisbane's historic city hall building. These have been round long before the nazis.

I have to defend my comment for being ANTI nazi now????
If you want to drive around with four swastika's on your car go for it.

Swastickas have outer extremities that go in different directions. These all flow the same way. Not the same thing.

barls Administrator Causer of Chaos and Mayhem

9,473 posts · joined Jun 2004 · 9 Jun 2013, 6:14 pm

#959072

SuperOwen wrote:
ibmoknegawsklov wrote:Looks great ! Ignore the anti Nazi comments, swastikas mean far more than that.
I have to defend my comment for being ANTI nazi now????
If you want to drive around with four swastika’s on your car go for it.

the thing is what hes talking about arent swastika’s, but the kdf flying hub caps as already established.

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helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 9 Jun 2013, 7:54 pm

#959084

The 45 degree black swastika on a white disc with a red background is Nazi. All other variations or similaritaries are irrelevant

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2,169 posts · joined Dec 2002 · 9 Jun 2013, 9:10 pm

#959092

SuperOwen wrote:
ibmoknegawsklov wrote:Looks great ! Ignore the anti Nazi comments, swastikas mean far more than that.
I have to defend my comment for being ANTI nazi now????
If you want to drive around with four swastika's on your car go for it.

Oh Dear Owen, so wrong, please comment once qualified to do so.

Keeping it real !

SuperOwen Fahrvergnugen

868 posts · joined Jan 2009 · 9 Jun 2013, 9:38 pm

#959094

So any similarity these have to a nazi swastika is purely coincidental? From a design for a german car produced under the third reich government???? The original poster obviously thought they were similar from his post title....

I'm not unaware that swastikas weren't invented by the nazi's and that this is a highly stylised version of it, but don't try kid me these hubcaps are simply using some buddhist symbol of whatever of it is.

Each to their own..... 😀

farkengruven Seriously Crusin Dubber

167 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 10 Jun 2013, 2:33 pm

#959148

SuperOwen wrote:
ibmoknegawsklov wrote:Looks great ! Ignore the anti Nazi comments, swastikas mean far more than that.
I have to defend my comment for being ANTI nazi now????
If you want to drive around with four swastika's on your car go for it.

Seriously, no offence intended, but you are full of shit.

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1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 · 10 Jun 2013, 2:40 pm

#959149

Why is everyone getting upset about swastikas? It's history ffs.

If it wasn't for the Nazi party we wouldn't have Volkswagens.

I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!😂

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679 posts · joined May 2008 · 10 Jun 2013, 3:28 pm

#959156

ANYWAY......as per the link, you can get them on the samba.......... I like them !

They are the flying cog, it was part of vw's branding back in the day, not a swastika......I like stickers !😂

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helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 10 Jun 2013, 8:10 pm

#959205

Here is a question or two for the historians.

The 'Flying cog' symbol with VW in the middle of it, as shown above.

Was it ever stamped on a production KDF wagen or war vehicle anywhere?

Was the Volkswagen name or VW symbol used by Nazi Germany during production of the KDF wagen or war vehicle?

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sikras Seriously Crusin Dubber

106 posts · joined Feb 2011 · 10 Jun 2013, 9:49 pm

#959237

SuperOwen wrote:So any similarity these have to a nazi swastika is purely coincidental? From a design for a german car produced under the third reich government???? The original poster obviously thought they were similar from his post title....

I'm not unaware that swastikas weren't invented by the nazi's and that this is a highly stylised version of it, but don't try kid me these hubcaps are simply using some buddhist symbol of whatever of it is.

Each to their own..... 😀

So to clarify my post, i have a beetle which has 1 of these hub caps damaged. So i googled beetle hub caps in images. I searched through all d images until i found the pic above and it was called flying swastica hub caps, hence my post title.
However now i've learnt it is called a KDF flying cog emblem.

lohoon Wolfsburg Wizard

466 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 10 Jun 2013, 10:18 pm

#959247

The cog symbol was used on some pre 50s parts. Rear spring plate covers were one place they were stamped. The side on the air filter was another. I'm no expert on the matter, just observant I guess. I have a gas cap on my 55 that has the cog symbol on it. Anyone know of any more?

farkengruven Seriously Crusin Dubber

167 posts · joined Jan 2006 · 11 Jun 2013, 1:30 pm

#959282

Pics help a lot.
So does the gas cap have the cog on it, or is it just the later replacement cap with the coarse grip on it?

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1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 · 11 Jun 2013, 1:55 pm

#959283

sikras wrote:However now i've learnt it is called a KDF flying cog emblem.

That's the PC name for them.

(It's really a swastika)😂

I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!😂

68BUS Wolfsburg Wizard

485 posts · joined Jul 2011 · 13 Jun 2013, 10:40 am

#959590

I wonder if these guys had them fitted?

And yes I know before I get told off that the KDF hubcaps were not Swastica's and the swastica was not a symbol of the Nazi. This bus is a bunch of Buddist Monks obviously......

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1,189 posts · joined Oct 2011 · 13 Jun 2013, 11:02 am

#959591

68BUS wrote:This bus is a bunch of Buddist Monks obviously......

Yes, you can tell by the flying KDF symbols on their arm bands.😂

I read it on samba, so it must be correct.

Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!😂

lohoon Wolfsburg Wizard

466 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 13 Jun 2013, 12:39 pm

#959597

Is that a shot from the blues brothers?

Isola Officially Full-On Dubber

217 posts · joined Oct 2011 · 13 Jun 2013, 1:00 pm

#959598

That's post war and not even in Germany. Neo-Nazi's have always used the swastika with the 1930s meaning attached to it (and yes the most well known meaning) but if it was 1910 theu may well have been monks :p