Steves 1303 buildup, found lots of kilowatts

1303Steve · 2010-09-08T13:21:23+00:00

Hi I wont have access to the Club Vee Dub website soon, a new webmaster is taking over so I wont posting updates on my car on the club website. I'm in the process of moving all my build files to another server, so for the mean time I will post updates here. With the new engineering laws for modified cars coming along soon I thought that I should get my finger out and get things happening. If you haven't seen what I've been upto, I'm fitting a Porsche G50 transmission and 2003 Sti motor to a 1303, I've been working on it since September 2004. Steve Photo time. After seeing the success that everyone is having with smaller radiators I ditched the massive one that I used in my old 1302 in favour of one from an 1983 Audi 100/200, I also already had a fan and housing from an earlier Audi 100 5E. it bolts up to that later radiator OK.

Jak Rizzo Insano Dub Head

837 posts · joined Apr 2004 · 11 Oct 2013, 1:51 pm

#972413

the run was over at the end of second gear anyway Steve.

Mine has done 8.3@84mph taking it easy off the line, so yours should do a 7 easy as you have an extra 70hp @ the wheels than mine.

but it's the 1/8th mile, who cares?

Birdman Wolfsburg Wizard

428 posts · joined May 2010 · 11 Oct 2013, 7:05 pm

#972435

Craig Torrens wrote:What does your car weigh Steve ?

I'm trying to understand why 204kw atw only gets you 8.6@84.84mph ??

He was taking it very easy and getting wheel spin off the line. New car first run down the strip Craig. Just bedding everything in. Knowing the car well i can say it would do 11s all day and 10s with slicks.

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 11 Oct 2013, 7:10 pm

#972436

wow Birdman, that's fast talk right there

Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
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1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Oct 2013, 8:30 am

#972471

Hi

I think 10s or 11s is a big call.

Maybe I could have launched harder if I did a burn out, I was getting better times almost every run, but in the round robin leading up to the finals wasn't the time to do this, I should have tried it during practice.

Steve

Birdman Wolfsburg Wizard

428 posts · joined May 2010 · 12 Oct 2013, 11:17 am

#972482

matberry wrote:wow Birdman, that's fast talk right there

I know, but i watched a 150 Flywheel kw WRX powered beetle do 11.2 all day at santa pod and steve has 205 rear wheel kw.

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 12 Oct 2013, 11:56 am

#972486

yep, thats the difference with all the extra weight on board, No offence to you or your car Steve, but I'd be surprised if we even see a 12 in Feb

Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 12 Oct 2013, 4:44 pm

#972515

Hi Matt

No offence taken, I'm going to sort out my fuel heating issue hopefully this week and I will go out to WSID for a try on the 1/4.

You can hear the fuel pump in my video

Steve

Birdman Wolfsburg Wizard

428 posts · joined May 2010 · 12 Oct 2013, 10:35 pm

#972558

matberry wrote:yep, thats the difference with all the extra weight on board, No offence to you or your car Steve, but I'd be surprised if we even see a 12 in Feb

You are right there Matt, she is one very very FAT CHICK !!!

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 14 Oct 2013, 5:06 pm

#972700

Hi

Just had my car weighed, it now weighs 1165kg with a spare wheel and full tank of fuel, very fat chick

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 14 Oct 2013, 5:52 pm

#972703

Wow, she's a real porka

Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 14 Oct 2013, 5:55 pm

#972705

What's the weight of a Rex engine anyhow steve ?

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 · 14 Oct 2013, 5:57 pm

#972706

And a G50 ain't light

Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 14 Oct 2013, 6:27 pm

#972710

What does a WRX weigh in at ??

1500 Kg's??

Futue te ipsum!!!

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 14 Oct 2013, 7:02 pm

#972714

Hi

Just a reminder how big a G50 is.

Steve

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Birdman Wolfsburg Wizard

428 posts · joined May 2010 · 14 Oct 2013, 7:51 pm

#972716

42 or 47 kgs, somewhere around there

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 · 14 Oct 2013, 10:09 pm

#972730

1303Steve wrote:Hi

Just had my car weighed, it now weighs 1165kg with a spare wheel and full tank of fuel, very fat chick

holy crap, thats heavy for a bug

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 · 14 Oct 2013, 10:10 pm

#972731

Bizarre wrote:What does a WRX weigh in at ??

1500 Kg's??

thought it was around 1250?

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 · 14 Oct 2013, 10:50 pm

#972732

Birdman wrote:42 or 47 kgs, somewhere around there

is that the G50? wow not bad at all, pretty light if you ask me.

go to be better than muscling out a 120kg "light weight" auto from under a car.

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

ricola Wolfsburg Wizard

437 posts · joined Feb 2003 · 16 Oct 2013, 5:45 am

#972836

1303Steve wrote:Hi

Just had my car weighed, it now weighs 1165kg with a spare wheel and full tank of fuel, very fat chick

That's not too far off mine Steve, the cab is about 1200kg fully wet with all the leather, stereo, sound deadening and chassis strengthening, cabs were always heavier anyway and I think I must have started with the heaviest type of bug every produced!

Doesn't stop it being bloody fast though! I also find that it has incredible traction, it just squats and goes... 😎

Rich

http://www.ricola.co.uk

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 16 Oct 2013, 6:55 am

#972843

Hi Rich

Thanks for the info on your cars weight. It looks more weight just needs more boost to compensate.

I just over engineered the chassis mods, I used mostly 25x50x3mm RHS. It weighs 3kg per metre.

I don't know the weight of the G50 or the STI motor, does anybody know where I can find this info?

Steve

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 · 16 Oct 2013, 9:52 am

#972855

can't find any specs of the engine apart from someone claiming 400kg lol 🙅

searching around, G50 is about 66kg.(146 lb) still light considering if you ask me. Many gearboxes I have handles weight more than double this with less gears 🤪

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 16 Oct 2013, 5:50 pm

#972887

Bizarre wrote:What does a WRX weigh in at ??

1500 Kg's??

WRX is 1390 STI is 1470

ricola Wolfsburg Wizard

437 posts · joined Feb 2003 · 17 Oct 2013, 3:04 am

#972921

My chassis rails are mostly 40x60x3mm...

http://www.ricola.co.uk

GTMac Fahrvergnugen

976 posts · joined Nov 2004 · 25 Oct 2013, 1:40 pm

#973640

Steve, whats weight of car with driver or is that like asking a woman how much she weighs? 😂

My Fasty tips in at 1050kg but I also keep adding crap to it. With your power mid to high 12's all day is very achievable. If I can manage a mid 12 with a 2.2 60ft, similar to your 60ft then sub 13's here we come. Harder 60ft and obviously better results.

BTW she is looking very sweet, cant wait to see it in flesh.

1971 Type 3 Fasty - EJ20T

I love 242HP sleepers. 🤪

How many sets of lights does it take a $229k Carrera S to learn? 😂 UPDATE: Cayman S, M3, B4 now added to the list.

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 25 Oct 2013, 2:07 pm

#973641

Hi Andrew

I tip the scales at 100-110 kg, don't get many to the ton.

I'm sure it can go quicker, it just feels wrong to try for a hard launch.

When I sort my fuel heating issues I will take it out to the creek for a test.

What sort of 1/8 mile time did you do?

Steve

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 · 25 Oct 2013, 3:02 pm

#973642

1303Steve wrote:
Bizarre wrote:What does a WRX weigh in at ??

1500 Kg's??
WRX is 1390 STI is 1470

thats really heavy for a small 4 cyl car. wth? what gives?

thats the same weight as 90s falcon 6 which were considered tanks because of their big weight.

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,789 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 25 Oct 2013, 6:01 pm

#973652

^^^ guessing 4 wheel drive etc

Futue te ipsum!!!

reub VWRX is gone...

2,054 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 26 Oct 2013, 9:26 am

#973698

Last time I weighed my vwrx it was 950kg without me in it.
Heavy compared to a stocker but is so wel grounded with the additional weight and didn't get blown around in windy conditions like my 750odd kg 58 beetle did.

Reub

vlad01 Compulsive Aussie Vee Dubber

4,270 posts · joined Jun 2010 · 26 Oct 2013, 7:10 pm

#973730

Bizarre wrote:^^^ guessing 4 wheel drive etc

what one extra irs diff unit? that still doesn't compare to the heavy ass live axle that the falcons have, their engine weight more than 250kg and gearbox over 120kg. Their bodies were renown as heavy as well.

where the hell is the weight in a wrx???

71 notchback,
Past owner of, 70 NB, 73 SB and 72 FB TLE

mactaylor Custom Title Time!

1,005 posts · joined Aug 2007 · 27 Oct 2013, 12:02 am

#973745

interior and sound deadening adds heaps. we stripped a mates and it ended up under 1000kgs before the cage went in.

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