Subarugears wrote:Wow that's a lot of boat anchors!
1960's Buick V6 front wheel drive is not Commodore is it, so your figures are highly innacurate.
You're talking about $500 Commodore motors, not other stuff you can't get your hands on.
I call B.S. on your fuel figures. Amazing how manufacturers with billions of dollars cannot get those sorts of amazing fuel figures but you backyard blokes can magically achieve the, with a slush box no less. If only you could have got a job at Holden, you might have saved their local production with your skillz :-)
now can you call bs when you are not that one actually doing it?
they are very efficient, they just got to be in good shape and not neglected, that is the key. They are given a bad wrap coz most people drive them into the ground and half the sensors are dead and fuel system up shit creek. I was achieving average 8L/100 including giving it some in city driving. best I got was 850k out of 63L. not bad for early 90s L27
I get only about 9.5-10L average now after overheating and seizing the engine, still alright for 300,000 motors that been absolutely flogged. My mate still get gets on average 800-900 out of a tank on a 400,000+ car.
I picked up one nice vr that sat around since 96 in Adelaide, drove it here on one tank with a little left, that 700km on a neglected other wise good car, slush box with 63L tank.
there is no magic, that is honestly what they do.
my figures are not inaccurate. the same buick engine been around since the 70s and slowly evolved til ceasing production in 06( supposed to be in 99, but investors went berserk, demanding to extend production) in favor of the current chev HFV6. The same engines were used in may cars around the world. I even by brand new engine parts direct from GM in the states, I just cross reference the engine with the Pontiac FWD models over there. Same engine!
interestingly, been looking at the weights of various suby H6 engines.
some of the earlier H6 were heaver than the cast iron buick lol
😂 boat anchor!
Ok, done with that.
more interestingly.
The current HFV6 3.6L is a real contender to the current H6 basically same weight, more rev range, flatter and fatter torque curve( more like a line) more power! over 300hp NA. heaps of awesome features. only thing is its managed by a bosch PCM
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its also got 6 bolt mains, all alloy, quad cam with dual VVT, forged coated piston, forged bottom end, piston oil jet squirters, ladder bridge girdle across the block valley, dual knock adaptive spark, direct injection, COPs among other features.
one of the plants is in port Melbourne, so its Aussie built, US ones are built in Michigan. best part is a complete crate motor with all accessories and ECU. $5200
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hmmm very tempting, except the Bosch PCM is a real turn off. A bastard to hack!
ok, my history lesson is done
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oh one other thing, E85 out of the box, without any fuel sensors or added complexity. it does it using the existing O2 sensors, knock and various other standard management sensors. the PCM is cleaver enough to work out which fuel or mixture of its using.
