of course you could.... you can do that to any modern car.
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
billholmes wrote:Here we have an old beetle and a buggy.
Could you do that to a new beetle? NO
No, because modern safety standards prohibit it, and due to monocoque construction, which all modern cars use. You can't turn the 411/412 (replacement for the Type 3), Golf (replacement for the Beetle) and Passat (replacement for the Type 3 and 4) into buggies either.
The closest you'll get is a cabriolet, which has roll over protection.
Andrew
Che Castro wrote:I dont hate NB's, I just don't think they are very good value in terms of space, ergonomics etc compared to similar cars in its price range. A bit of a form over function design. Although the classic beetle is pretty crap space wise as well, although the reason is that it's design is rooted in the 1930's.
Fair enough. Chrysler in the 1930's realised that the primary motivator for car purchase is not function, but design. They also started down the path of yearly model changes to encourage rapid turnover of vehicles. This is now a unversal aspect of the modern car industry.
Andrew
Hi Trace, next time I am down in Vic we can cruise through the city in our spunky bugs and I will take that reserved car park
🙂
And what do people buy VW's for anyway?? Looks of course!! Both classic and new. Your only lieing to yourself if you deny it
😉
billholmes wrote:Now heres a baja. Could you do that to a New Beetle?
NO.
The old beetle had many uses but the new ones just for the City.
So...you take a beetle and make it into a baja and of course it's for looks, and so they feel 'cool'! If it's not for that reason then why don't you go and buy a 4wd!
New beetles still have so much character and what Andrew said was right. If you look at the different dollar values comparing 30 years ago and now, it has changed significantly! You will find the old beetle compared to the price of the new one works out to be the same! So in reality it ain't that much more expensive! And in return you are getting a solid, new AND reliable car.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE classic bugs and I LOVE new ones!!
😀 My solution = keep the classic for weekend when I eventually get my new one!
It's great andrew your the man with the stats and info! Love it, just love it! :P hehehe
foxy_fuchsia wrote:And what do people buy VW's for anyway?? Looks of course!! Both classic and new. Your only lieing to yourself if you deny it 😉
errrr, not quite right... i bought my 4 vw's because they are fun, different, have soul and character... looks also, but it was in no way the only reason that i bought vw's. if your buying something entirely based on its appearance rather then is practical functions and so on then maybe some people need to question how did they get a point in life where its no longer whats inside that counts? this is actually relevant to many aspects of society of course..... "when did i become so superficial and shallow that i need trendy items to establish and define my social status".... anyway, i'm in no way throwin rocks here, if you buy something cos it looks great to you then thats fine.. but to buy it cos you will then be considered 'cool' by your peers is a bit of a wank...
So...you take a beetle and make it into a baja and of course it's for looks, and so they feel 'cool'! If it's not for that reason then why don't you go and buy a 4wd!
this is a perfect demonstration of narrow mindness! you make a baja just so you can look and be cool! hahahahahah
go check out the off road section to see how these things perform and handle compared to a big and EXPENSIVE 4wd. people do this to get a great off road vehicle that is a volkswagen that can take a lickin and keep on tickin, unlike many modern 4wds!!
sorry if ive upset you at all, i'm just sayin how it is... i work in the auto industry and see dreamers every day come in and spend daddys big bucks to have a new car that buys them 'coolness'. at vee dubbers we tend to have a laugh at those tossers...
[Edited on 13/4/2005 by ~air fooled~]
everything dies baby, thats a fact..
maybe everything that dies one day comes back..
put your make up on and your hair up pretty..
and meet me tonight in Atlantic city..
I didn't say appearance was everything, I said it was a major component! And then there is that VW's are fun, have soul, character ect. I agree with that! But just because something isnt 3 decades old doesn't mean it doesn't possess these things. The reason I love beetles so much, apart from what they are, is because it's like a big VW community whereever you go. And everyone else just doesn't get whats so special about them.
And with bajas yes they are great lil cars but why I said that is because I don't have any use for one which is why I would opt for a normal or new beetle. If I wanted an offroader I would go and buy a fun old bush basher 4wd to play in the mud and take on the beach. It's not that I am narrow minded it just that is my opinion, but like I have said previously everyone is different!
Unfortunately I don't have a rich daddy or trust fund so when I buy a new VW is certainly won't be about 'coolness' as you say.
hey did you see all the 'cool' people hiding in the bushes of the baja above!? that guys now the coolest kat in town with that mad ass black baja! hahahaha:P😉:P😉:P
dont take it personally foxy.... all you were talkin about was looks as the reason why you bought things!
everything dies baby, thats a fact..
maybe everything that dies one day comes back..
put your make up on and your hair up pretty..
and meet me tonight in Atlantic city..
Oh my god, hilarious! You obviously have no clue hahaha...
Oooh, and don't take it personally 😉😎😉
peace out
Foxy you need to chill out. And at least get the spelling of my name right.
I was not bagging any specfic owners or the New Beetle I was just making a observation. The next time you see a N.B at the lights tell what type of person looks back at you.
The N.B is fine for people that like the Beetle shape and want all the luxs but to deny what it was styled on is a joke. And the interior is an ergonomic nightmare.
If I want to arrive at my destination in a moulded plastic aircond
clone with comfy seats I will take the bus but if I want to drive It's the CLASSIC for me. Each to there own! seylavee!
Problem: I got probed by Aliens last night...............and I think I like it!.........E.T call ME.
know why i like the classic...well why i like MY beetle...
cost me $500.00...can paint flowers all over it, and butterflies, dragon flies lady beetles etc.....
ppl look and go ...way crazy...
but more than that...edith sings for me...each morning i go down stairs, and promise to put a new picture on her, if she sings the dak dak song...
dak dak dak dak dak dak dak dak dak dak dak
and u know what else....i bet ppl had a similar argument to this 30yo...only it was 'which is better...the ugly little beetles, or ford/holden/valient etc...
and they will in 30 more....
what do u like best...classic beetle (1994 or earlier) new classic beetle (1994+ ) or NEW beetles...(2024+ models)
dubless. 🥲
🥷 And who the helled parked the Mitsubishi "Prancer" under my house??? 🥷
bugeyedbabe wrote:know why i like the classic...well why i like MY beetle...
and u know what else....i bet ppl had a similar argument to this 30yo...only it was 'which is better...the ugly little beetles, or ford/holden/valient etc...
and they will in 30 more....
what do u like best...classic beetle (1994 or earlier) new classic beetle (1994+ ) or NEW beetles...(2024+ models)
so true bug eyed babe exactly what i was thinking :P
HotRodMatt wrote:For Y2K, if you don't like it here why do you stay?
I only sometimes stay here cause their are a FEW people who are friendly and accepting of what i drive. My first example of friendliness was at Valla, when i drove in i was recognised by the man himself....yes Jim Gow...he recognised me. He went out of his way to introduce himself to me. The same goes for mscabrio and handycam. The rest of Valla was a night mare from a NB owners point of view. Just look back at some of the comments on these pages and this was yelled at myself, mscabrio and handycam everyday of our stay. And these people werent being discret either, at our face as we drove past. Some of them were probably peeps on here. Oh well thats life hey
2000 New Beetle White (SOLD)
2004 NB Turbo Black, APR (SOLD)
2007 Passat Black shaggin wagon
1955 Beetle white VWOVAL
1956 Kombi, rusty n lichen
classic all the way from 50 to 67 always the best stick the biggest motor and box you can in em all carbed none of that fuel injection stuff and drop the front till she hits the floor thats my idea of a real beetle!
TRULY OLDSKOOL! (all the way!)
stuipid beetle breaks everytime i drive it.....
foxy_fuchsia is a champion and should be declared Queen of AussieVeeDubbers because she stands for all Vee dubber rights, and tells those who are descriminating other people's thoughts to say there reason for there vote, and then SHUT UP!!!!
Good on ya foxy_fuchsia.
All those other losers (Not deliberately being offensive but being REALISTIC) thinking its fun to dis people who may have different thoughts/values/beliefs about whatever are totally wrong in the head, should kick there own bumb and LEARN SOME RESPECT.
By all means, contribute to this topic, say your opinions about other peoples ideas, BUT DONT DIS THEM AND DONT DISRESPECT THEIR VIEWS.
Thankyou.
(ô_!_/ô) (ô_!_/ô)
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
Who really gives a toss. If ya like your car be proud of it and stuff anyone who slags it off. their just pissed they can't afford one themselve's. I don't have one. I like the old one's, but my daughter likes the new one's. At least she dosent want to buy a ford. Enjoy it!
Rob...
Boxer Power
Member of DMLRK.....Die Mittler Lebuns Resto Komeradschaft
Yes, (partially) agreed.
We know that 90-95+% of the members here like the original Beetle - you don't have to justify yourselves by demeaning the other 5-10% of members.
Andrew
y2, thats so mean...to hear ppl treated u like that is just incredible...
tell u what...
i'll grab a cabin at valla, and forget it being about what u drive...anyone can come...but u have to sit a 'nice' test...no-one is permitted to bag another persons car....u all have to sit and find 5 ncie things about every one elses ride, write it down, and hand it to them (with ur name at the bottom)
so whenever ppl are mean to u here ont he forum, u can get all those little peices of paper out and see that not everyone hates ur ride...
hehe...problem sorted....kinda....
dubless. 🥲
🥷 And who the helled parked the Mitsubishi "Prancer" under my house??? 🥷
thanks babe...sounds good:kiss
2000 New Beetle White (SOLD)
2004 NB Turbo Black, APR (SOLD)
2007 Passat Black shaggin wagon
1955 Beetle white VWOVAL
1956 Kombi, rusty n lichen
vanderaj wrote:Yes, (partially) agreed.
We know that 90-95+% of the members here like the original Beetle - you don't have to justify yourselves by demeaning the other 5-10% of members.
I still don't see much of this demeaning going on...
Quite a few bag the cars cause after all it usually comes up as "What do YOU think of them?"
But consistently a few NB owners take it to mean they hate them personally.
SOME N.B owners have a Complex.
It's because there are Purist out there, who always want to take the Piss out of there (SO CALLED) Yuppie Cars.
Simple as that. :thumb
BAJA NOW FITTED WITH A FULL FLYING REBUILD
yep complex... thats what it is
2000 New Beetle White (SOLD)
2004 NB Turbo Black, APR (SOLD)
2007 Passat Black shaggin wagon
1955 Beetle white VWOVAL
1956 Kombi, rusty n lichen
Who cares, there all VW's arent they?
White Knuckle Racing Team [/i]
"Drive it like dirt"
I really think this type of "POLL" should go into it's own caterory so we can read all the crap from both sides in the future. These discussions do absolutely nothing but stir up emotions and shit that just makes us all look stupid.
I wonder if the internet was started in the 60's would we have polls asking: Do you like the old classic 40/50's split window/oval window compared to the "NEW" Beetle with padded dash, big rear window, disc brakes, stick shift auto, dual port motors and all that fancy stuff?? Bloody yuppies in there "new" 70's beetle 😉
he he, oh boy.
Well ALL VW's Air or Water will be very welcome at this Sundays (17th) VW Jamboree in Melbourne.
STEALTH
I think people try and get personal on here and what I first sensed when this topic was posted was that a few people were trying to in a way 'attack' Chris, the new guy. People can have there opinion but you can discuss it in a decent way where no gets upset...I mean saying a nb owner has a complex?!
I just think we should be able to talk about things like this without slander because after all they are all VW's!!
:bounce:bounce:bounce
Yes I aggree.
foxy_fuchsia Is absolutely right.
(ô_!_/ô) (ô_!_/ô)
69' baja: kombi box, thing spindles, irs, disc front, type 3 rear drums, 2 inch lift kit, 31x10 rears. 👍
New engine in process: 94mm p&bs, 74mm C/w chomol Crank, 35.5x39 SP heads, turbo. Wierd combo, hopeful torque monsta!
You want everyone on this site to have an opinion(yours) or otherwise they are slanding or belittling other owners? get real! the question was put, people answered, some added comments or observations. I have reread all the thread and no one person was slandered. I am not jealous of the N.B Y2K has a nice Beetle with lots of trophies to prove it , but it is not my cup of tea. If that makes me a Purist old fogey, whos car breaks down and I smell like oil,(your words) then I will wear that as a badge of honor. So brand me now and file my life under CLASSIC OWNER/DRIVER.:thumb
Problem: I got probed by Aliens last night...............and I think I like it!.........E.T call ME.
hahaha are you a fogey😀
BTW ive never gotten sunburnt in my bug, not even the tops of my hands when holding the wheel, yet when driving my other halfs 99 corolla i get crispy all the way up to my neck. Damn toyota😉:kiss
[Edited on 13/4/2005 by Y2K]
2000 New Beetle White (SOLD)
2004 NB Turbo Black, APR (SOLD)
2007 Passat Black shaggin wagon
1955 Beetle white VWOVAL
1956 Kombi, rusty n lichen
Oi there yes i said classic beetles smell and drip oil, break down and back fire...but guess what!! That aint slander my friend, my beetle does exactly the same thing!! Now you are being too sensitive.....
bat69 wrote:Who cares, there all VW's arent they?
true.... although it appears that some are more of a VW than others.
see.... air and water do mix 😉
1974 1300
1997 MK3 Golf GL
2003 NB Cabrio
2012 Golf VI GTI
2014 Audi A4 Quattro
