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jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard

560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#101185
Pete does this mean that the general public that aren't into vw's will be buying V8's since all their V6's will be getting blown away by beetles ??
Jak
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!

helbus Administrator Mad fabricator, paint and body

7,386 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#101187
I have respect for anyone that can make a seemingly harmless motor turn into a weapon.
We all know V8's have typically been built into all manner of race vehicles.
When a Beetle with a type 1 motor in it blows away a V8 it is sweeeeeet victory.

I feel the same when my supercharged EH Holden 6 cyl leaves Commodore V8's for dead.

When they ask what's in it I just say "Oh just an old red six" 😀
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Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#101312
nup, jak, they'll be buying vw's 😀
with this in mind, mebbe you could sell yours or swap it for a V6. 😀
let sleeping dubs lie

jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard

560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#101430
I think that I will have to swap my motor for a Pobjoy 1916 if I want 100hp @ the wheels instead of my pidley 93.6.
😉

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Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!

Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#101438
heehehehee
where did that article come from? you must quote your sources 😀
let sleeping dubs lie

jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard

560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#101443
Australian VW Power, issue No.18 December / January 1991 Pete.
With only a 284Duration cam with 360thou lift & Kadrons it's 100hp @ the wheels, holy crap, I most certainly must be doing something wrong.
With 298 duration & 555thou lift & 45mm Dells I just can't get these No.s Maybe I'm trying too hard??
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!

Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#101456
thats a hardcore cam... sure you want that? ask stan you might just get ten horseys out of a simple config. change 😀
those heads we were talking about will probably do that, but they're an exy change... 94 horse is awesome for a diy motor. i just don't have the money or experience to risk fiddling with combos and blowing bits up. hence the steroids option. power, and no wuckas.
let sleeping dubs lie

jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard

560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#101461
I used Stans 32/68 cam for 2 years, I then changed to the K-8 ,still with 1.25 rockers, went from 430 lift to 500thou lift & the 1/8th mile went from 10.4 to 9.8 with only the cam change.
Nuff said really?
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!

Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#101722
ahh. but he uses stock rockers. heck i dunno, give the bugger a call. 😀
let sleeping dubs lie

jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard

560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#101737
Stan reccomends using 1.25 rockers with that cam, but not the 1.4's. I've used Stans products for many years Pete, still use his anti-surge sump, theres nothing on the market that can beat it!
Jak
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!

Cam Custom Title Time!

1,535 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#101886
kafer69 wrote:What is it about the 1916 that always causes such intense bickering.
Gene Berg's 30 year old tests on 94mm's 😠

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#102042
Cam wrote:
kafer69 wrote:What is it about the 1916 that always causes such intense bickering.
Gene Berg's 30 year old tests on 94mm's 😠
yeah and the fact you can't just 'slap 'em in to a stock case without doing some homework
Pay your debts, CxxT

jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard

560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#102177
Sorry Craig, the 90.4 & the 93.6 were both with the K-8 & 1.4 rockers.

I would have liked more time to chat on the weekend Craig, but the racing got in the way.

I used Stans cams for years & would reccomend them but just for seat of the pants the K-8 grind feels alittle tourqier, seat of the pants anyway.

Although I wouldn't mind trying your cam😀regards
Jak
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!

jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard

560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#102382
You're confused????
Sure u don't have me mixed up with someone else?
Or am I the only dill that keeps putting my car on the dyno?

I don't think that I'll be racing anymore this year, the summer mountain bike season is about to start & I really should do some training.
regards
Jak
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!

jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard

560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#102385
& besides, I've had the K-8 for almost 3 years now.
Just checked my records of engine specs. I can only pressume that I misquoted myself.
regards
Jak
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#136948
jakriz wrote:I think that I will have to swap my motor for a Pobjoy 1916 if I want 100hp @ the wheels instead of my pidley 93.6.
😉

Well 121.5hp at the wheels is what you will get with the new Steroid spec POBJOY. One of Stan's customers had his dynoed and tuned at CBB on the weekend, 121.5hp !!! ......... not bad for a street car............ and being the exact same motor anyone can purchase with a 25000km/12 month warranty😀😀


lugnuts Custom Title Time!

1,070 posts · joined Aug 2002 ·

#137030
Hey Craig why must you torture us so,and i think you missed a cuppla forums too- Rat fanciers forum,Give a fellow dubber a hand forum.:P

jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard

560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#137035
how come it's more than yours Craig?? did the 121.5hp motor have 13:1 compression rather than 11.8???:P
Fantastic numbers:thumb
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#137042
mine will have more very soon😀 once the jets are changed to the same as Troy's :thumb


Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#137057
and mine 😉
bwahahaahahahahaaha:bounce
let sleeping dubs lie

jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard

560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#137089
I'm still in front, $16 per hp as apposed to $64 per hp.
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!

HotRodMatt If it\'s old or rare - cut it!

3,616 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#137126
That is a very impressive dyno run! Now aren't you wishing you came to CBB for your dyno Craig? :P

Good to see that putting ones mind to tuning is just as important as getting the right combo.

Congrats to both Stan for building it and Mike for interpreting the tune and the dyno results.

Hope to see that bug eat some rice now.
I'm still in front, $16 per hp as apposed to $64 per hp.
I like these numbers better! LOL.

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#137148
HotRodMatt wrote:That is a very impressive dyno run! Now aren't you wishing you came to CBB for your dyno Craig? :P

Good to see that putting ones mind to tuning is just as important as getting the right combo.

Congrats to both Stan for building it and Mike for interpreting the tune and the dyno results.

Hope to see that bug eat some rice now.


I agree :thumb up to both

I will be using the services at CBB in the future Matt, just couldn't on the Dyno Day.

As for the $ comparison, your dreaming Jak if you think you can duplicate your motor using all brand new components with a new aluminium case, new carbs etc . for $16/hp ..........Compare apples to apples mate.

I will look forward to seeing how long and how many engine combo's it will take for you to see 120HP@the wheels :P
So what size will it be then ???? 2.3lt

Congrats again to Mike for the work done on one of Stan's customers Steroids motor.


jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard

560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#137294
As for the $ comparison, your dreaming Jak if you think you can duplicate your motor using all brand new components with a new aluminium case, new carbs etc . for $16/hp ..........Compare apples to apples mate.

I will look forward to seeing how long and how many engine combo's it will take for you to see 120HP@the wheels :P
So what size will it be then ???? 2.3lt

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz plop, reel reel reel reel,
hook line & sinker craIg..........
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!

jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard

560 posts · joined Sep 2002 ·

#137302
As I've said many times before craIg, if I didn't enjoy spending so much time in the garage or have a genuine interest in building my own motors & I had 10g's just laying around then I would definantly give Stan a call.
As for the warranty? My fathers machine work is second to none, can't beat 40+ years experience.............& it's free:thumb
Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#628930
geez where do the years go !


dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#628940
Any updates on specs and performance Craig?
Are the heads shelf 044s or ported by stan?
Is Gregs engine one of these with dual plugs?(44 idfs?)
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

westi what the

1,610 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#628970
question for jak,
how many different types of engine combos have you put together and what would you say is the best that you have found.i have seen that you have posted heaps of dyno sheets so i asume you have tried a few.
down sharon.

colin Fahrvergnugen

984 posts · joined Mar 2007 ·

#629269
Gday everyone i dont get an oppurtunity to join the post very often but after reading this one i thought i might give an unbiased opinion.
After many engine rebuilds with Larry (Keith Haeusler) some very succesful some well lets just sat not so good,we have squeezed 125.9 dynoed rwhp from my 1916 combo.
Stan Pobjoy now is offering around 120 rwhp with a warranty. How does he do this? Well i guess he has being developing his combo for many years and is now confident in its reliability and performance.
If i wanted to get someone to build me a 1916 and i was in a position to pay someone Stans offer would be very attractive. His motors after racing against them produce plenty of hp and reliability.

Just and unbiased opinion

Cheers Col

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#629708
dangerous wrote:Any updates on specs and performance Craig?
Are the heads shelf 044s or ported by stan?
Is Gregs engine one of these with dual plugs?(44 idfs?)
Re heads: Off the shelf 044.

Greg has Eliminator heads with twin plugs...and I think 48 idf's.

And Colin what you and Keith have done with your 1916 is impressive.