$480 for an adjustable beam

cray Wolfsburg Wizard

462 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 25 Oct 2004, 9:14 pm

#252052

is that normal? :duh

pyr0 flame-on

4,457 posts · joined Mar 2003 · 25 Oct 2004, 9:15 pm

#252055

for a bus or bug ? from who ?? is that including the beam trade with them ?

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cray Wolfsburg Wizard

462 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 25 Oct 2004, 9:20 pm

#252062

for a balljoint bug, not including exchange. my beam is slightly bent. i'd rather not say from who. it probably is right, i was just a little shocked as people had led me to believe it would cost a fair chunk less 🙁

[Edited on 25-10-2004 by cray]

matara Custom Title Time!

1,342 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 25 Oct 2004, 9:31 pm

#252067

Snap

I left a beam in to have adjusters fitted, I was told it was bent and I ended up paying over $750 for a supply and fit of a King & linkpin beam with extended shock towers and avis adjusters fitted. It was show quality work (that I hadn't necessarily asked for), and its still sat in my garage unused as the original beam I had in my ghia just needed new torsions after all that.

I feel your pain bro!

I have since bought myself a welder for $500

Steve

cray Wolfsburg Wizard

462 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 25 Oct 2004, 9:32 pm

#252071

jesus h christ.

i haven't actually paid that amount. i was quoted it. no fitting. reco'd beam. rattlecan black paint.

[Edited on 25-10-2004 by cray]

Andy42 Insano Dub Head

709 posts · joined Mar 2003 · 25 Oct 2004, 9:56 pm

#252111

You can get adjustable beams from workshops around here for just under 300 but that is with an exchange beam.

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Desert Moose Cut Cut Cut

2,098 posts · joined Mar 2004 · 25 Oct 2004, 10:08 pm

#252127

if your talkin' just the beam.....it not that bad. Because its from $250 to $300 exchange depending on the ajusters

cray Wolfsburg Wizard

462 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 25 Oct 2004, 10:22 pm

#252142

this along with my new front brakes is gonna make the front end worth more than the rest of the car put together ;|

XXX-1.8T Bishop of Volkswagenism

3,113 posts · joined Oct 2002 · 25 Oct 2004, 10:23 pm

#252145

how do u bend a beam, im stressing now:repuke

cray Wolfsburg Wizard

462 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 25 Oct 2004, 10:28 pm

#252151

XXX-1.8T wrote:how do u bend a beam, im stressing now:repuke

previous owner put the bug into the back of a land rover at 25kmh.

the bend is so slight that i couldn't even see it until the guy pointed it out to me. then he told me he couldn't take it because of the bend and that it would cost me $150 more unless i had another beam to exchange.

penguin ackkkkkk thhhhhpt!

3,383 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 26 Oct 2004, 7:32 am

#252251

Give PickNPayless a call and ask how much for a beam, no brakes etc, I think you'll find that they will sell it to you for about $100, at least thats $50 less, and if you are real lucky, you may find that one of their beetle wrecks has an adjustable in it 🙂

'Ah, whatever................'

cray Wolfsburg Wizard

462 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 26 Oct 2004, 10:53 am

#252334

penguin wrote:Give PickNPayless a call and ask how much for a beam, no brakes etc, I think you'll find that they will sell it to you for about $100, at least thats $50 less, and if you are real lucky, you may find that one of their beetle wrecks has an adjustable in it 🙂

my dad's place is right near there, so we've been already. the few beams that are in the cars that are sitting there are in worse condition than my own.

Chewy Fahrvergnugen

889 posts · joined Jul 2004 · 26 Oct 2004, 10:58 am

#252336

You could get your own beam straightened out, buy some adjusters from the US for $15 each and do it yourself, or give it all to someone with some decent metal working skills and get them to do it up.

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penguin ackkkkkk thhhhhpt!

3,383 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 26 Oct 2004, 11:47 am

#252356

Bugger,
sorry dude. maybe someone here has one for sale for $100 (or less) then.

'Ah, whatever................'

cray Wolfsburg Wizard

462 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 26 Oct 2004, 2:40 pm

#252470

Chewy wrote:You could get your own beam straightened out, buy some adjusters from the US for $15 each and do it yourself, or give it all to someone with some decent metal working skills and get them to do it up.

my dad could probably do it, he's pretty experienced with welding and other mechanical sort of things. and he's all for it.

the only problem is, the only instructions i've been able to find for the placement and fitting of the adjusters is for a king and link beam, which seems to be fairly different from where they need to go on a balljoint beam. can anyone help me out with this?

firstnameVlastnameW Learner Dubber

4 posts · joined Oct 2004 · 26 Oct 2004, 7:33 pm

#252648

I guess you have to way up the options here.
A, buy a set of adjuster of the same that the shop was offering remember there is two types the cheep and nasty tiwaness ones or the avis type which is the ones I brought a while ago from VVD cost me around 130 ea, very happy with the adjusters, top quality. Then you need to fit them remebering that you are modifing your suspension something that if not done wright could cost you a lot of money or even your lift if it fails.
B,If you are paying like I did 260.00 for a pair of adjuster then even 480.00 sounds good too me to have them supplied and fitted, I dont think I would have muched around for the day cleaning and fitting them when I could have picked up a beam aready done by a profesional. The peach of mind that the job was done in an RTA approved manner seems far for the $220.00.
As long as it is safe and low just do it.:P:P

cray Wolfsburg Wizard

462 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 Oct 2004, 6:21 pm

#253173

anybody? 🙂

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 Oct 2004, 6:46 pm

#253188

well have u considered the time is take to do one... and do u have an exchange beam

1 remove wheels, brakes, fuel tank, steering coloum etc etc

2 remove beam

3 strip beam n clean all grease n dirt n crap

4 cut beam and expertise required to do job.

5 supply n fit adjuster top

6 supply n fit adjuster bottom

7 supply n fit shock extension towers

8 re fit beam to car

8a fit camber shims

9 refit brakes wheels fuel tank

10 charge customer at hourly rate ???

11 ensure beam in car is straight and get wheel alignment

so yr beam is bent .... go to the wreckers if you can find a ball joint beam is it straight i would d say not so its supply n demand

U can send me a U2U who quoted u this price...

sounds fair to me supply beam with adjusters... there getting harder to find

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cray Wolfsburg Wizard

462 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 Oct 2004, 7:23 pm

#253216

the price quoted to me, as i have already said in this thread is for the beam and adjusters only. NOT fitted. so 99% of what you've just said is completely irrelevant.

[Edited on 27-10-2004 by cray]

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 Oct 2004, 7:37 pm

#253223

Ok so did u find a straight beam at the wreckers ???

Can you strip clean n weld with the correct alignment the adjustors into position..... can you make a fit n weld the shock tower extensions ?? can you ensure its all alignened correctly and guarentee the welding and re assemble the beam correctly ???

If you can not do any of the above with confidence and correctness and guarentee it well then the price is good.

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

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wacked1 Custom Title Time!

1,508 posts · joined Jul 2003 · 27 Oct 2004, 7:42 pm

#253228

i have one for $200
ring me
0414 920 783
here is a pic

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twoguns simply aircooled

4,275 posts · joined Nov 2002 · 27 Oct 2004, 7:44 pm

#253229

there ya go. i was about to say i got a KnL with adjsuters for 150. so they are out there.

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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 Oct 2004, 7:45 pm

#253231

There u go GREAT PRICE looks straight
doesnt have extended shock towers but will still work...

Gee I luv this forum...

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

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Brad Wolfsburg Elder

3,764 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 Oct 2004, 9:10 pm

#253301

You can straighten a bent beam easy enough as long as in is not real bad.

I am currently writting tech articles on building adjustable front beams for the shop website at the moment. Should be done in the next few weeks as I have about 10 beams to build so should remember to take pics on at least one of them.

If you do build your own, just remember that the adjusters go in different places on the BJ to the K & L.

Fitting adjusters is a very easy job and all you need is a welder and a grinder ( oh and someone who can weld) Just remember if they let go your front end will drop onto your shocks.

One question though... why would you extend the shock towers on a BJ front end ?

Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
Meyers Manx Australia

Chewy Fahrvergnugen

889 posts · joined Jul 2004 · 27 Oct 2004, 10:00 pm

#253327

Buggy Brad wrote:If you do build your own, just remember that the adjusters go in different places on the BJ to the K & L.

Whats the difference??

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Menangler Custom Title Time!

1,991 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 27 Oct 2004, 10:11 pm

#253336

One question though... why would you extend the shock towers on a BJ front end ? [/quote]

So standard length shocks don't bottom out all the time,
I usually raise the towers by only 30-40mm so with stock length shocks the ball joints don't bottom out, then things start getting nasty.

[Edited on 27-10-2004 by Dave Becker]

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wacked1 Custom Title Time!

1,508 posts · joined Jul 2003 · 28 Oct 2004, 4:29 pm

#253687

here they are cray

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1,508 posts · joined Jul 2003 · 28 Oct 2004, 4:29 pm

#253688

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cray Wolfsburg Wizard

462 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 Oct 2004, 4:33 pm

#253690

awesome pics mate, thanks, i'll give you a ring tomorrow arvo 🙂

pyr0 flame-on

4,457 posts · joined Mar 2003 · 28 Oct 2004, 7:17 pm

#253783

hey slightly off topic but what year modle did the beam change from balljoint to the other one ?

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