counterweighted cranks...where from and how much?

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 3 Nov 2005, 8:18 pm

#424577

I know y'all gonna tell me to ring a shop but I don't like wasting people's time when you guys might know anyway.

Where can I get a counterweighted 69mm (stock VW) crank from?

I was imagining people do them exchange. Stan Pobjoy does doesn't he?

And of course, what's the damage? I mean the cost?

I'd like to rebuild a motor of mine to be highly balanced but I wonder if it will be worth he cost.

"stoopid is stronger than axles"
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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,785 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 3 Nov 2005, 8:47 pm

#424592

$150 - $200 US from Demello or ACnet or CB or.................

Craig Torrens wrote:Pobjoy sells his for $770.........these are crack tested standard cranks, counterweighted,ground, and nitrited.

nn[ Edited on 29-7-2005 by Craig Torrens ]

I bought a 10thou one with flywheel with heads and 90.5P&C for $400 a little while back

There are some answers for you.

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vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 4 Nov 2005, 6:40 am

#424710

I bought a Demello 69mm +10 cut for USD 160 but carried it back in my luggage last June

Try some of the shops they may have some good deals but dont buy anything other than CB, Demello or Bergs

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 · 4 Nov 2005, 2:03 pm

#424852

vw54 wrote:I bought a Demello 69mm +10 cut for USD 160 but carried it back in my luggage last June

Try some of the shops they may have some good deals but dont buy anything other than CB, Demello or Bergs

Or Pobjoy.

VDubya Seriously Crusin Dubber

103 posts · joined Sep 2005 · 4 Nov 2005, 2:17 pm

#424856

Get a forged full circle. Welded would be your second choice.

I was going to join the Democrats to keep the bastards honest, but joined the forum instead.

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 4 Nov 2005, 3:39 pm

#424886

vw54 wrote:I bought a Demello 69mm +10 cut for USD 160 but carried it back in my luggage last June

Try some of the shops they may have some good deals but dont buy anything other than CB, Demello or Bergs

what does "+ 10 cut" mean?

Craig, love to buy a pobjoy, but I like to avoid selling my first born. Know what I mean? I know what you're gonna say...you get what you pay for.

Is there anyone else in Aust who does them besides Stan? Because to be honest, he makes the Berg stuff look affordable.

"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,785 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 4 Nov 2005, 4:05 pm

#424904

"+ 10 cut"

Pete this means first grind on the mains by 10 thou "

When even a crispy new crank is welded it will distort a bit and is ground to true it up again.

Cranks usually go 0, 10 thou and 20 thou.

You can go to 30 thou on a stocker but after that you will have difficulty getting bearings for it.

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pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 4 Nov 2005, 4:21 pm

#424911

so I have to have it ground after I buy it?

or do I use +10 thou bearing on it straight out of the box?

BTW, I take back what I said about Stan, he's exy, but the Berg stuff makes him look affordable...I just looked at the Berg price list. ❗😢

[ Edited on 4-11-2005 by pete wood ]

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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,785 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 4 Nov 2005, 5:53 pm

#424950

No - it comes useable fron the shop

When they sell it to you they tell you what it was ground to

http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=ECR0001&cartid=1028200573415620

"the least amount of crank journal cut will be provided, dependant on core availability"

That is why it is good to give your own core.
Bugger shipping it over and then shipping it back.

IF you can find a trustworthy person in the states get then to find a good std crank and use that as the core??

Here is the Demello site

http://www.demellocranks.com/

They have 6 circle cranks

Vdubya - have you ever used a full circle crank??

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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,785 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 4 Nov 2005, 6:02 pm

#424953

DPR is also another brand that gets :thumb fron the Shop talk boys

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66deluxe Custom Title Time!

1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 · 6 Nov 2005, 6:30 pm

#425528

Hi all, I just got a 78.4mm counterweighted type 4 crank from the states, was $480US. It is a DPR Crank, I wasn't scared to pay that much, but exchange rate and shipping kills you though. But i have it now so here comes a big type 4 engine build.

[ Edited on 6-11-2005 by 66deluxe ]

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Bizarre Moderator The artist formerly known as blue74l

12,785 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 6 Nov 2005, 7:52 pm

#425564

66deluxe wrote:....so here comes a big type 4 engine build.

Is this for your 66 beetle or something else???

Sounds exciting :bounce

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66deluxe Custom Title Time!

1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 · 7 Nov 2005, 7:18 am

#425653

Yep it is for my 66 beetle I am building, Going to build engine my self but heads will probably be done by V-force, or some one else who is reputable any Ideas or have you eyeballed his heads before, any input would be nice. Cheers Damien.

[ Edited on 6-11-2005 by 66deluxe ]

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Louis Commited Dubber

50 posts · joined Nov 2005 · 7 Nov 2005, 8:16 am

#425677

pete wood wrote:so I have to have it ground after I buy it?

or do I use +10 thou bearing on it straight out of the box?

BTW, I take back what I said about Stan, he's exy, but the Berg stuff makes him look affordable...I just looked at the Berg price list. ❗😢

Did you look at a forged Berg or a welded one? There is more to consider than price.

Make sure you don't compare apples to lemons.

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 7 Nov 2005, 7:33 pm

#426032

Louis wrote:
pete wood wrote:so I have to have it ground after I buy it?

or do I use +10 thou bearing on it straight out of the box?

BTW, I take back what I said about Stan, he's exy, but the Berg stuff makes him look affordable...I just looked at the Berg price list. ❗😢
Did you look at a forged Berg or a welded one? There is more to consider than price.

Make sure you don't compare apples to lemons.

I think you might want to edit this post

Pay your debts, CxxT

pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 7 Nov 2005, 8:45 pm

#426077

I'm not saying the product isn't good, I just can't afford the prices, that's all. be cool VWCOOL. 😏

"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

lugnuts Custom Title Time!

1,070 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 8 Nov 2005, 1:25 am

#426196

Hey Pete,ask Primate hes always got stuff like cranks :thumb

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 8 Nov 2005, 7:22 am

#426247

pete wood wrote:I'm not saying the product isn't good, I just can't afford the prices, that's all. be cool VWCOOL. 😏

Hey, it's your money - it makes no difference to me if you want to send it overseas.

But if I was Stan, I'd be very pissed off that some jerk has labelled his cranks 'lemons' without stating why

Pay your debts, CxxT

Louis Commited Dubber

50 posts · joined Nov 2005 · 8 Nov 2005, 7:47 am

#426258

VWCOOL wrote:
pete wood wrote:I'm not saying the product isn't good, I just can't afford the prices, that's all. be cool VWCOOL. 😏
Hey, it's your money - it makes no difference to me if you want to send it overseas.

But if I was Stan, I'd be very pissed off that some jerk has labelled his cranks 'lemons' without stating why

You over sensitive over reading little blouse. That is a common phrase. Put two forged cranks together and compare apples not compare a forged and a welded crank.

Are you trying to tell people that a welded crank is as good as a forged one? Wake up mornon and pull your wedgie out.

VWCOOL 23 Windows of Awesome

5,158 posts · joined Jun 2003 · 8 Nov 2005, 11:26 am

#426314

WTF?

Louis - is that Vdubya by another name?? These posts seem to have the same 'Sad Old Man' tone...

I take offence to being called a 'blouse' and a 'moron' for simply pointing out that a post could be considered defamatory or whatever

[ Edited on 8-11-2005 by VWCOOL ]

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pete wood 23 Windows of Awesome

6,828 posts · joined Jan 2004 · 8 Nov 2005, 4:15 pm

#426399

I'd love to buy a crank off any of the afore mentioned companies. I am realiably lead to believe they all offer quality products, especially those of Stan Pobjoy and and Gene Berg Enterprises. Sadly I cannot afford the cost of the latter so I will have to make do with a cheaper product.

There,

Enough said, discussion over. 👍

"stoopid is stronger than axles"
http://drivingnotpolishing.blogspot.com.au/

VDUBXTC Tea Bag

3,587 posts · joined Feb 2003 · 8 Nov 2005, 10:20 pm

#426613

edited this post, cause i don't want any trouble. 😀

wasn't happy with this brand

[ Edited on 8-11-05 by manx_xtc ]

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jakjones Officially Full-On Dubber

217 posts · joined Mar 2004 · 8 Nov 2005, 10:44 pm

#426623

that crank is drilled in the very common SPG pattern , its fine u just need a fly wheel to suit.

jakjones Officially Full-On Dubber

217 posts · joined Mar 2004 · 8 Nov 2005, 10:46 pm

#426625

dumone wrote:ditto Louis-on the forged or welded bit. usually on your doorstep within 10 days

[ Edited on 7-11-05 by dumone ]

Ha ha
the crank pictured is both forged and welded !!!!!!!:birthday