What is the fastest street registered vw ?

Doug Sweetman · 2002-10-24T04:11:50+00:00

I'll throw it out to the forum - What is the fastest street registered vw in Australia ? I understand that there shoudl be two different sections - fastest out right, and fastest aircooled, but throw them all in and we will see where we get. [Edited on 5-9-2003 by vanderaj]

jakriz Wolfsburg Wizard

560 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 27 Apr 2003, 1:13 am

#41657

Where the hell are the drags held Lee?...............on the track.......yeh sorry, my mistake.

Congratulations to Ben Durie for breaking the hillclimb record at Ringwood in his stroker beetle!

Herbie 53 Bugs are not nearly enough

764 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 27 Apr 2003, 2:56 am

#41664

I have video which I took in sacremento of a vw boxer powered rail doing a quarter mile pass in 6.91 seconds, I was more than impressed and there were beetles chasing his times with in 2 seconds or so. and some very quick and beefy registerd beetles however californian rego is in no way comparable to Australian standards, if its older than 30 years you just pay your $54 + insurance and youre off.

62 Ragtop Herbie with a little extra oomph.

Phil74Camper Head in the Clouds

2,703 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 30 Apr 2003, 5:21 pm

#42847

The Drag Day will be back for the 2004 VW Nationals, at the new proper Eastern Creek Quarter Mile strip. Everyone who is a contender for the 'fastest street-registered VW' title should plan on being there. Then we can settle the issue.

It sure won't be my Kombi...

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 30 Apr 2003, 6:13 pm

#42872

FILL

how many times do i have to tell you.

2004 VW Nationals, at the new proper Eastern Creek Quarter Mile strip.

Its going to be called WSID

Or Western Sydney International Dragway

lets all stay away from that OTHER place across the road Eastern Creek.

IDIOTS dont know what sort of money they COULD have been making NO forward planning at all. there loss HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I CARNT WAIT....

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 28 May 2003, 4:25 am

#51468

just thought it'd be fun to get this ol speed debate back up n running again 😀
lets make it easier to understand. VW driven to strip, registered, 1/4 mile time, and speed in MPH.

faster.. faster.. faster.... boom!

let sleeping dubs lie

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 May 2003, 8:57 am

#51510

What are you talking about ??

lets make it easier to understand

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 28 May 2003, 1:28 pm

#51577

just wondering if there had been any more advances or drags since the last few posts... 😀

fast dubs that sleep in car parks make light work with too many cooks in the hand saving nine eggs from the basket.

that any clearer? 😀

let sleeping dubs lie

Secoh Fahrvergnugen

926 posts · joined Sep 2002 · 28 May 2003, 2:52 pm

#51608

So, how many of the street registered cars are legally registered? I'm more interested in ones that are engineered and driven on the road than a race car with some plates hanging on it. 🙂

If it aint broke,
Make it go faster!!

Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 28 May 2003, 4:30 pm

#51642

me too 😀

let sleeping dubs lie

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 May 2003, 6:28 pm

#51684

I didnt know you could write n speak Chinese ???

The cars that have won the Berg Trophy are LEGAL. FULL STOP.

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

amazer kombi pilot

3,187 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 May 2003, 7:17 pm

#51714

Well that rules me out. My seatbelts arent engineered and therefore illegal for starters.

Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf

56astro Custom Title Time!

1,772 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 May 2003, 7:23 pm

#51716

Are you telling "porky pies" Dave!

Perspex?

Racing slicks?

Noise restictions?

Wasn't the term "scrutineering" used very loosley in the early days?

VW car, VW engine ...... keepin it "real"
35MPG on 101.3kPa

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 May 2003, 7:41 pm

#51723

You have yr ear to the wrong horses arse.

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

rachael brown Seriously Crusin Dubber

113 posts · joined May 2003 · 28 May 2003, 8:42 pm

#51758

i think my kombi is the fastest, look how fast it hoons in my glasses!

Grey 57 Old Grey Cruiser

2,937 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 May 2003, 8:45 pm

#51762

if your lookin who's drivin??

rachael brown Seriously Crusin Dubber

113 posts · joined May 2003 · 28 May 2003, 8:47 pm

#51765

havent you got auto pilot in your car?

Grey 57 Old Grey Cruiser

2,937 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 May 2003, 9:06 pm

#51771

I was gonna say that it was great timing for someone to have the video camera on you as a thief drove off in ya kombi.

Oh now I have.

Baja Wes V6 Baja Pioneer

3,119 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 May 2003, 9:30 pm

#51786

she forgot to put her handbrake on.

funny thing is she was thinking "hey look at that, another kombi just like mine driving by"

when she saw it had no driver something clicked, and the smile disappeared 😀

sorry, couldn't help myself :P

Wes - www.offroadvw.net - 200HP Quad Cam V6 in a VW Baja - with climate control... 🙂
www.taylorcycles.com.au - My DH MTB racing brothers shop.

rachael brown Seriously Crusin Dubber

113 posts · joined May 2003 · 28 May 2003, 9:49 pm

#51801

i have a memory for cars,places and names ................ im coming after you

my kombi rolled really fast down the hill by the way, the fastest ever!!!!!!!!!!!

Grey 57 Old Grey Cruiser

2,937 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 May 2003, 9:53 pm

#51803

are you playing that video in fast reverse, cause it looks like its rollin up the hill!!😀

rachael brown Seriously Crusin Dubber

113 posts · joined May 2003 · 28 May 2003, 9:58 pm

#51808

havent you heard of "turbo" rolling up hill either!

by the way, how do you get those little faces after the text (im putting the one with the tongue sticking out on ):P

Grey 57 Old Grey Cruiser

2,937 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 May 2003, 10:01 pm

#51812

you must have worked it out:thumb😎🙂🙁😠😀:o😉:P:sandrine:bounce:party

1303Steve Scirocco Rare

8,650 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 28 May 2003, 10:19 pm

#51822

56astro wrote:Are you telling "porky pies" Dave!

Perspex?

Racing slicks?

Noise restictions?

Wasn't the term "scrutineering" used very loosley in the early days?

56Astro

The rules were designed for gentlemen but when someone really wants a trophy and is pissed off about being beaten by a 1880 cc Targa car they will make complaints and bolt number plates to their chubby chums drag car (isn't that fraud), sure it was a stripped down bug. Liable laws restrict me from naming names

Fact, it passed noise restriction, otherwise it would not be racing.

Fact, it was using street legal Yokohamas from memory.

Fact, I didnt know lexan window made that much diffrence, I have done jobbies that weigh more than a window, so i dont see what the big deal is about them being that much of an advantage, Im pretty sure that they are legal in side and rear windows in NSW.

Below are the rules that we were asked to adopt by Gene Berg to make sure there were no more disputes.

Gene Berg Trophy Drag Race Rules

The Gene Berg Trophy is a perpetual award, presented to the driver of the FASTEST ROAD REGISTERED VW. As there may be some confusion over exactly what is a "road registered" car, the following rules have been implemented.

1. The vehicle must be registered. That is the chassis and engine numbers must match up with the registration papers, sticker and plates. This can be checked by the scrutineers.

2. The cooling system must be intact. The cylinder tin, fan housing and fan must be fitted, although the fan belt may be removed for a run.

3. The best time only in "racing" will be counted.

4. The vehicle must run on pump petrol, for example leaded super, or standard or hi octane unleaded. No exotic chemistry allowed.

5. Street tyres must be run. No drag slicks are allowed. Road tyres must have a minimum of 1.5 mm tread.

6. Fitting of the rear seat and rear seat belts is optional but both front seats and belts must be fitted.

7. Fibreglass mudguards, bonnets, whale tails and spoilers are allowed, but the body and doors must be factory steel.

8. No perspex windows are allowed, all windows must be glass.

9. The spare wheel must be fitted for safety reasons.

10. Exhaust design is unlimited except that it must meet the track noise requirements.

11. Vehicles for this class must be able to be driven on the street in the normal manner. If scrutineers are in any doubt, you may be required to complete a 15 km drive.

Cant wait until we have a 1/4 mile track for next years Nationals, would like to see Adam from SA and Leigh go head to head.

1302Steve

Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 28 May 2003, 10:47 pm

#51835

funky glasses...
Respect mah authoritahhh!😎

let sleeping dubs lie

rachael brown Seriously Crusin Dubber

113 posts · joined May 2003 · 28 May 2003, 11:01 pm

#51837

now............. cartman has the fastest wheels!!😎

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 29 May 2003, 7:57 am

#51893

Nice Sunnies Rachael.
So who is driving yr bus

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409

Peter Leonard Moderator Volatile

1,456 posts · joined Apr 2003 · 29 May 2003, 9:46 am

#51910

i just checked the cams manual.. tricycles aren't legal for drags. CRAP!🙁

let sleeping dubs lie

56astro Custom Title Time!

1,772 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 29 May 2003, 9:58 am

#51916

Originally posted by 1302Steve

The rules were designed for gentlemen but when someone really wants a trophy and is pissed off about being beaten by a 1880 cc Targa car they will make complaints and bolt number plates to their chubby chums drag car (isn't that fraud), sure it was a stripped down bug. Liable laws restrict me from naming names

1302Steve

Steve, I hear what you're saying, but that drag car (the Flying Flea, am I right?) was as street-legal and as worthy a winner of the "Berg Trophy-with-no-rules" as some other vehicle(s) that ran times that day and would have been given the trophy.

What most people fail to realise or comprehend is that the Berg Trophy should carry a fair degree of prestige. No doubt that the builder of the engine that wins the Berg Trophy gets considerable kudos, and consequently business from their efforts.

However, when the running of such an event by gentlemen is derailed by the unscrupulous and non-gentlemen in an effort to bolster their business at the detriment of others, THAT IS FRAUD!

On the occasion that the lack-of-rules was brought to a head and the drag car won the trophy, was that the same year that the trophy was eventually awarded to a turbo vehicle. Is this what Gene would have really wanted, knowing what Gene Berg Ent. really stood for (fastest normally aspirated street car)?

Like others, I can't wait for next years match ups.

:thumb

[Edited on 29-5-2003 by 56astro]
edited by amazer to fix italics

[Edited on 29-5-2003 by amazer]

VW car, VW engine ...... keepin it "real"
35MPG on 101.3kPa

amazer kombi pilot

3,187 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 29 May 2003, 10:57 am

#51931

I dont think berg would have any problems with turbo cars winning. The trophy says fastest street registered volkswagen if I'm not mistaken. No mention of normally aspirated.

Whatever year it was on his last visit to nambucca a whole group of hellbug related people were sitting around talking turbos, and he didnt seem to have any objections then. Yeah it wasnt his way, but he wasnt thumbing his nose and walking off. A few times over that weekend I got the impression that he admired what we do here in OZ given our geographic and financial exile. He certainly wasnt saying 'yeah thats fast but its turbo'. If the trophy had to go to a berg priciple car, there would be none around to win. No VDO guages ('we dont use VDO cos they're crap' - cant sue dead people) no oil coolers (shouldnt get hot in the first place), no compression......

What has happened in the past with the GB trophy is history. Its fixed now. Anyone looking for me at next years nationals will find me under Leighs gearbox giving him a special clutch 'adjustment'.

Chris.... kombi pilot, oval dreamer... finisher #26971 2005 city to surf

vw54 Administrator Always Waiting 4 Friday

16,723 posts · joined Aug 2002 · 29 May 2003, 11:49 am

#51942

Chris

What has happened in the past with the GB trophy is history

Thanks JC for that

Your right when Berg came to Aussie, he did some of his best R & D, he really liked it as well cause it only cost him a cassette tape at the seminars.

I read it on FACEBOOK so it must be true

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=91278&page=1#pid848630

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=63561&page=1#pid624099

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=4832&page=1#pid452603

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=60650&page=1#pid574409