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DavoBuggy 1641 Officially Full-On Dubber

359 posts · joined Nov 2008 ·

#690750
DavoBuggy 1641 wrote:so what would be the best transmission 'set up' for my buggy? (1300/1500 beetle?) for a 1915 turbo aplication.

I really need to sell this bike too if anyone is interseted?

cheers dave!
On that note is there a specific year floorpan i should be using? cos i have quite a few pans lying around that i could probably get started on!

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#690791
Boostn wrote:if the car hooks up too well at a good track, you can let the car down at the spring plates and make it wheel spin because of the negative camber only uses some of the tyre and not all of it.
Likewise if the track sucks you can dial the car up so the tyre is flat using all of it.

This method can also save boxes, because you can allow it to wheel spin a little instead of going home early with a broken tranny.
Just like Nick says, and playing with bump stops (size and length), tyre press, front ride ht, amt of droop etc etc. all effect launch and car reaction.

As for the pan, I'd just pick the lightest, best condition.
Tranny, my bet, 1500 to start with, find a few close gears and a super diff and hd side plate and get DB to put it all together.

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DavoBuggy 1641 Officially Full-On Dubber

359 posts · joined Nov 2008 ·

#691625
Hey guy's! Ok well, I have seleted a suitable floorpan from the vw grave land i call my back yard but having no body i'm unsure of the year and would like to find out. I t has a gear box in it with numbers 23 113 301 103 on the side of it??? Can anyone ID this?

DavoBuggy 1641 Officially Full-On Dubber

359 posts · joined Nov 2008 ·

#691669
Hey Dave, thanks for the advice but all i could find was a stamped code a bit lower but it was a number, it read 5834923??? the vin number is 5594983 if that helps narrow it down???

I should have some pics up soon of the state we found this pan and the body!

cheers Dave!

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#691696
That's the one David.
Pre 1967 in Australia they had no letter prefix on the stamped number(other than a few exceptions).
My guess would be that itis just an early(weak) 40hp box, and probably not much good (hard to say without a picture).

IF you can find one with a number beginning with 7,
or better yet one with a letter prefix,
you might be onto a reasonable base.

Ultimate would be late 1300, or 1500 beetle with recess and bush for 12 volt flywheel.

DB.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

DavoBuggy 1641 Officially Full-On Dubber

359 posts · joined Nov 2008 ·

#691796
I'm looking for a 1500 box to use and was going to call you Dave about maybe puting something together for me, could you pm me your number?

Also, should this pan still be fine for a starting point or not?

I have attatched a photo and it was successful but i can't see it??? anyone?

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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#691939
That photo is there David.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

DavoBuggy 1641 Officially Full-On Dubber

359 posts · joined Nov 2008 ·

#692065
That's strange? I still can't see it on my computer, however i can see the pic's in my Members rides post???

So what do you think of the floor anyway? lol!

bajamat Learner Dubber

18 posts · joined Aug 2008 ·

#692093
its there dude i can see it to

DavoBuggy 1641 Officially Full-On Dubber

359 posts · joined Nov 2008 ·

#692615
Hey Guy's,
Not much to report, just booked in at custom for stage one on the first of April. That will include shortening the pan i've got and making the tube frame floor sides with alluminium pan halves. The front end will go on when i get it back (no brakes) and in the mean time D.B. will be putting together the box, then that can be solid mounted plus hydraulic clutch and rear Disc's.

Good luck too everyone at Portland and wish i was coming.😎

Cheers Dave!

DavoBuggy 1641 Officially Full-On Dubber

359 posts · joined Nov 2008 ·

#692989
All stripped down ready to go to Custom Vee Dub!
Plus a pic of the body where i found it!

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DavoBuggy 1641 Officially Full-On Dubber

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#704600
STAGE.1.
Hey guy's, sorry it's been a while but Custom Vee Dub have been very busy but i have just dropped the floor off to Dave and the boys and have all faith that it's going to come back awesome! They will have it over April while i am over living it up in the U.S.A. I will be back at the end of the month and will have a whole lot more to report!!!

Cheers Dave!

newoldmanx Wolfsburg Wizard

468 posts · joined Aug 2006 ·

#705237
thought you might like this
its just a car for f*%k sake

DavoBuggy 1641 Officially Full-On Dubber

359 posts · joined Nov 2008 ·

#714651
Hey guy's, just a quick update. Well i have the body removed from the old twisted up floor (nearly fell off with all the rust!!!) and have started to gather some key items, like my genuine Gene Berg shifter which i got from Gene Berg enterprises in Orange CA on my recent trip to the USA. i'm still waiting for the actual floor to be finished at custom vee dub but as soon as i get it i will post some pic's of it and the body, (and the shifter!)

Cheers Dave!

DavoBuggy 1641 Officially Full-On Dubber

359 posts · joined Nov 2008 ·

#721078
I now have sponsorship throgh my parents buisness Allpave asphalt servises, under 'Allpave Racing' so things should move forward a little easier now. This is still all new to us and i'm sure I will still be calling on support when I need it. There was even a mention of Craig and VWMA coming on board once i finally finish this project.

more pics soon when i get the floor back!

Cheers Dave!

DavoBuggy 1641 Officially Full-On Dubber

359 posts · joined Nov 2008 ·

#726873
OK Guy's, it's all starting to happen now, the floor is cut to size and the body, even though cracked and twisted, seems to fit preety good. started smoothing out the sides of the body and preparing to slice all excess fibreglass from the rear of the body. Once the body is bolted in place we will repair the damaged section and finalise seating position, then off to Custom again for the roll cage (Dave's got something crazy in mind???).

Mean while i sold my motorbike today and so therefore have the funds needed for a drivetrain! just got to find one now? or more than likely just build one from scratch with Dangerous.

Here's some pics of what i'm up to!

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1916baja Custom Title Time!

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#726875
Sick.....👍

Brad Wolfsburg Elder

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#726889
Looking better than it did ...

Brad
Why copy when you can own an original ?
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DavoBuggy 1641 Officially Full-On Dubber

359 posts · joined Nov 2008 ·

#728326
Hey, Yet another update. I had a few discussions with the Muffin man over the last couple of weeks and have came up with quite a nice little pakage i thought.

I ended up getting on to a 76 single side plate box, with that and the swinger out of the pan i've used i have the specific internals and the tubes etc... needed for the new Rhino case we've orded. Internals being replaced are with Albins 1st and 2nd, with 1800 kombi 3rd and 4th for now,
Alluminium spool diff, Billet side plate with thrubolt, and more!

Undecided about Axles, apparently alot of guy's are breaking sway away's Dave said. Maybe a bad batch. Any other ideas on Axles?

Dave said he'd have it for me in about 3-4 weeks so progress will continue on the body for now so i can get it off before the box returns for fitting.

Cheers Dave!

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#729136
...but still waiting for the Rhino and side cover to leave he USA.





Albins gears are here too.
Perhaps some pics of them tomorrow.

Went for a 3.00 first gear and 2.00 second,
to go with the L-bug 3.875 crownwheel and peanut.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

DavoBuggy 1641 Officially Full-On Dubber

359 posts · joined Nov 2008 ·

#729144
Very nice indeed!

trickysimon 100km/h is only 9 seconds away

1,473 posts · joined Dec 2007 ·

#729168
Could you use a spool in a street car or would the tyre wear be too great? Looks good btw 👍

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#729232
trickysimon wrote:Could you use a spool in a street car or would the tyre wear be too great? Looks good btw 👍
Hi Simon,
tyre wear would be the least of your worries on the street.

The biggest concern would be the shocking understeer.

I know some guys that run them for street use,
but it is quite dangerous if you are not alert ALL the tme.
With the VW's light front suspension it can push straight quite easy.

For you, a superdiff and side cover would be the best and only 2/3 the price.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#729352


Here is a comparison of the Gleason 3.875 pinion head on the left,
and an early 4.375 pinion on the right.

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#729356
Here is the Albins mainshaft with early VW needle bearing installed where third gear will be.



And some comparisons in tooth size with stock gears.



Comparison of second gear:

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#729358
Comparison of First gear:





And the early needle bearing that will support the firstgear on the pinion shaft:

westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

20bkombi Wolfsburg Wizard

597 posts · joined Mar 2009 ·

#729430
looking good davo, coming along well.

hey Db , so the stock pinion is cut by a klingenburg, yeah?

Will it be ready for Warwick?
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dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#729450
Hi Aaron,
you have an eagle eye there dude.
that 4.375 is actually one that was made on an Oerlikon machine.
I is a very similar tooth form to the Klingelnberg, being a thicker tooth at the heel.
Most 4.375's were gleason,
but the Australian ones in the mid sixties were Oerlikon.
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.