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cnfabo Custom Title Time!

1,353 posts · joined Apr 2008 ·

#767309
are those still the 043 heads marcus? and who did the work on them?

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#767310
cnfabo wrote:are those still the 043 heads marcus? and who did the work on them?
they are 044 wedgeports.

Unless you are building an over 2lt stroker or a stock 1600 the 043 are not worth using.


cnfabo Custom Title Time!

1,353 posts · joined Apr 2008 ·

#767319
craig, can u explain why the 043 are not worth using on a 1916cc??

Craig Torrens 6 times Australian, 7 times State Hillclimb Class Champion

8,040 posts · joined Jan 2003 ·

#767322
because you can't machine the combustion chamber depth any lower to increase the compression ratio.

the 043 casting only goes down 3 fins deep, so you can only machine the head for "clean up", not to remove any material.

Whereas with an 040 head,the combustion area's casting goes down 4 fins deep.....so you have more "meat" to play with, which means you can remove more to decrease cc's in the combustion chamber and therefore raise the compression.

The 044 heads are cast all the way down.

Because stroker motors usually have larger cc capacity (over 2lt) the combustion chamber doesn't need to have a lower cc capacity to raise the comp, so 043's are good for that. And well 1600's are just low comp anyway !

The other negative with 043's is that they have a smaller exhaust valve than an 040, and the valve stem is 9mm (from memory) which are bloody hard to buy when replacing!

Hope that answers your Q ?


cnfabo Custom Title Time!

1,353 posts · joined Apr 2008 ·

#767360
exactly what stan told me.. cheers craig....

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#767363
Yes the 043's have been put aside to go on the wife's 1600cc kombi engine.
They would have been stretched to their limit or beyond to do what I want.

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#792185
Well with study and other things (like two new motor and gearbox builds and installs for a couple of kombis) work has been only progressing slowly.
The body is however getting quite close now.
Below are some photos of where it is at. The fuel tank area had been bastardized by a previous owner (who also had a fetish for freakin fibreglass 🙁 ) so a new front clip has been installed. Will still have to fabricate and install the back edge of the fuel tank surround.
Firewall is almost ready to be replaced as you can see from unpicking below. The only thing that will leave will be the mod to have the rear apron removable from the firewall back for engine access and easy in/out.
On the engine front, the Scat have finally delivered the custom crank that I ordered (and paid for) last October. It is a 72mm forged 4340 superlight, knife edge counterweight crank with lightened journals.
It will be partnered with some re-furbished Carillos that passed all there tests with flying colours.
One of the next jobs is finishing off suspension including fitting front end adjusters, (the right way up) rear camber adjusters, and then making a new pedal box/cluster.

Cheers

A butchered oval fuel tank area



Another photo of the same



Firewall in need of replacing



Donor firewall almost unpicked



New front clip fitted









The body as it is now

oldskl60 Officially Full-On Dubber

251 posts · joined Mar 2008 ·

#792196
You are a talented man Marcus! Great work

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#792295
Any pictures of the new crank Marcus?
What journals did you choose?
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#792338
No pics yet Dave.
Matt is picking it up at Valla from Rodney.
Stuck with T1 journals I am fairly sure. (ignorant driver/owner talking)

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#792390
Yep Marcus, T1 mains, VW big ends. Edit: whoops...type 4 center main 🙂

Good to see some progress on the body Marcus 👍 keep it up 🙂.
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#797577
So a Scat counter weight knife edge crank (custom made/ordered) has arrived!!

The centre main journal is type 4 : my bad from last info Mr DB.

Thanks to Rod Penrose and Matt Berry for their part in this 😘











Looks strong 🙂

dangerous 23 Windows of Awesome

5,901 posts · joined Jan 2005 ·

#797600
Mmmmm!
Salubriuos crank!
Are you going dry sump Marcus?
Magnesium or aluminium case?

What is your planned completion date?
westi wrote:That's mad Alan.

johny rotten Officially Full-On Dubber

366 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#797604
odd shaped counterweights 🤪

interesting hole drilling

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#797610
dangerous wrote:Mmmmm!
Salubriuos crank!
Are you going dry sump Marcus?
Magnesium or aluminium case?

What is your planned completion date?
Hey Dave

Not going dry sump, just using a deep sump (size to be confirmed), a magnesium case (rules if read strictly would seem to indicate I need to have an original "block" (the rules say block not case obviously) not an aftermarket and/or performance one). Rods are standard length Carillos with vw journals.

Completion date .... hmmmm ; not this year I don't think. (If I talk down the finish does that mean it might happen sooner?) Early/mid next year is realistic for time and money 🥲

johny rotten Officially Full-On Dubber

366 posts · joined Apr 2004 ·

#797612
what is the bore and stroke size

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#797621
72mm stroke and 94mm bore = 1998.6cc
Under 2litre Improved production

DieSchnelleKafer Officially Full-On Dubber

296 posts · joined Jul 2010 ·

#797711
hi, when you say you got the car sand blasted does that mean actual sand or some other mdeia like bead or soda? if not what did you use. both my doors fenders W decklid and hood have been sanded back and over the years formed deep surface rust. what would you recommend?
cheers,
blair

oh by the way great build porn.. i mean pics. i wish my oval was coming along this quick
type 4 1956 oval build thread anyone?...

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=85675

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#804442
Hey Blair

Sorry I had only just noticed your post oops 😊

I wish my oval was coming along quick ... I did have it sand blasted. The guys were reasonably careful. If you wanted to be sure then some media that would heat the panels less would be advised.
I will go look for your thread now. 🙂

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#821409
Well a little spare time and some funds have meant some progress on the Beetle. Not massive but positive nonetheless.
First pic is of a nice front end that has now been fitted with adjusters (right way up and in the right position 🤪)
Next pic is the shock towers trimmed and seam welded
The other pics are of the rear end going together with the type 3 bars in place and the camber adjusters
Bought some gear for the workshop (shed) which has made life easier and more things possible. A 20 ton press (just a baby), die grinder, vernier calipers, SP tools spanner set 8mm to 19mm, dawn fabricated offset vice 5", and some other bits and pieces.
Hope to have it on its wheels with front sway bar in place by Saturday evening.








vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#821578
Cheers Aussie Dubbin

Down on its wheels today.
Most things went reasonably well.
The fitting kit for the front sway bar was in need of modifications.
All seems good. Front end feels quite compliant and the sway bar does its bit when you jump on just one side.
In the midst of making up the intermediate gear box mount at the minute.
Hydraulic handbrake is a cool solution for the rear discs for me.
Currently also making brake lines.







vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#821698
Last one for the moment
Finished off the intermediate gearbox mount. Lot of stuffing around for a little mount 🙂

Am starting on the pedal assembly next and will be going with a hydraulic clutch setup.



bat69 There is no status

791 posts · joined Apr 2005 ·

#821707
Looking good Marcus. Do you have an estimated completion date? That is a massive front bar. What size is it?
White Knuckle Racing Team [/i]
"Drive it like dirt"

vassy66T1 Wow ... are U reading this?

2,120 posts · joined Jun 2003 ·

#821709
Front bar is a 22mm (I do have a 20mm front bar also in case I need to go down in size/stiffness. I think that will be likely)
The rear that I have is a 24mm. Am hoping for a balanced feel not too much oversteer. Time will tell.
I am hopeful for middle of the year now for the car to see the track. It is nice to see it get this far now.
Cheers for your interest.

matberry Moderator Go hard or go home

8,114 posts · joined Mar 2006 ·

#821763
Looking good Marcus 👍👍
Matt Berry Motorsports...air cooled advice, repairs and mods Ph 0408 704 662
OFF-ROAD,CIRCUIT,DRAG,STREET,ENDURANCE

hellbugged 48's and straight cuts

5,080 posts · joined Apr 2003 ·

#821776
👍

66deluxe Custom Title Time!

1,593 posts · joined Aug 2005 ·

#821779
Looks great love the shocks and the handbrake
This is my Volkswagen, there are many like it, but this one is mine. Without me my Volkswagen is useless, without my Volkswagen, I am useless.

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cnfabo Custom Title Time!

1,353 posts · joined Apr 2008 ·

#821803
hey,marcus, where did u purchase the hanbrake from ??